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    • Cat names and a tie

      7 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      So there's been no new Fantasy Fights round because the previous round is tied. In the past, my approach has always been first to wait a few days, which I've done. No solution. Then I usually threaten to either count my own vote twice or not count my own vote at all, whichever I randomly decide is more appropriate. So if you haven't voted yet, you have a little bit longer before I do one of those two.


      So I mentioned in my last post that we're going to get a third cat. The breeder has our deposit. So now we're just waiting for it to be old enough to leave mommy. I've started thinking about names. Jennifer got to name both Dimitri and Katya. So now it's my turn. We're getting a Russian Blue kitten. So the idea is the name, like the other two has to be at least vaguely Russian-sounding or Eastern European. So I'm trying to come up with something good. Anyone got suggestions? Right now, my favorite is naming him Vigo the Carpathian. Then he can be the Scourge of Carpathia and the Sorrow of Moldavia. But I'm still weighing options. We've got time, after all.

    • Fantasy Fights: Magic over Might

      7 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      Previous round results:


      Magneto levitates by manipulating the metal on his own body, and Aang laughs and sends himself into the air on his glider by manipulating the wind. Magneto sends nearby pieces of metal flying at the boy, but in classic airbender fashion, Aang just slips out of the way of everything. The young air nomad isn't carrying any metal on his person. So nothing for Magento to latch onto. The Avatar leads the master of magnetism a merry chase through the skies, until he lures him close to a body of water and changes tactics. Aang drops like a stone into the water, and when Mageto approaches to look for him, a pillar of water bursts up over him and then freezes, trapping him into a block of ice. Aang wins.


      Black Canary starts out the fight with her signature Canary Cry, but Harry reacts quickly, raising a sonic barrier between them. The soundwaves dissipate completely on contact. Harry quickly counters with an invisible lance of force, knocking her off her feet. As she leaps back up in one fluid motion, Dresden closes the distance and baseball swings his wizard staff into her head, knocking her out cold. The wizard takes it.


      This round


      Link vs Vin

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      Link is the legendary hero of Hyrule and very multi-talented. He beats up giant monsters, solves ancient puzzles and rescues princesses. Recently he's even become a mean cook. He's got the Master Sword, a powerful blade imbued with mystical evil-banishing powers. He's also got the Hyrule shield and his loyal steed Epona.


      Vin is a mistborn, the most powerful of allomancers. A mistborn can burn any of the allomantic metals, which makes a trained mistborn practically an army in and of themselves, and Vin is one of the best. For those not familiar with allomancy, an explanation is necessary. An allomancer swallows certain metals, and then burns them inside of their bodies to imbue them with different powers depending on what the metal is. Iron and steel allow an allomancer to detect and then pull or push on nearby metal objects. This lets them travel quickly by pulling themselves toward metal or dropping metal (like coins) and pushing off of it to soar through the air. It can also be used to push a piece of metal into (or maybe through) someone else. Tin enhances the senses (which can be good and bad). Pewter gives the allomancer enhanced strength, balance, speed, endurance, and the ability to ignore pain. Zinc and brass let the allomancer manipulate the emotions of others. Some much rarer metals allow the user to do things like manipulate time in small bubbles, but the only super metal Vin ever used was atium, which allows the user to see a few seconds into the future, and thus anticipate the moves of their opponent. Vin is also an expert with a dagger, though as an allomancer she has to be concerned about carrying metal when facing other allomancers. So her dagger will be made of glass or stone, which makes it brittle. 



      Mr. Stay Puft vs The Flash

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      Mr. Stay Puft was a corporate mascot for marshmallows until he became the enormous Avatar of Gozer, the Traveler (thanks, Ray). He's a 112-foot tall behemoth made of marshmallow, and he's evil, crushing innocent humans and churches with equal disregard. He's kind of slow and lumbering, but he's also very tough. The ghostbuster's proton packs singed him some, but were ultimately ineffective until they crossed the streams to close the doorway that allowed Gozer into our world. If not for that he might never have been defeated.


      The Flash is fast. Like really crazy fast. He's a hero, wise-cracking, fun-loving and just stupid fast. That's kind of all there is to him, really.


      Pick one winner from each round. 

    • Cat stuff ups and downs

      7 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      New Fantasy Fights should go up tomorrow. If you haven't voted in the previous round, here's the link:

      Fighting yay


      But this is about cats. So any of you who read this other journal may remember that a few months ago, we adopted a cat from a rescue in Dallas. Dimitri is a Nebelung cat who quickly decided that I was his human. He follows me around, sits in his cat tower at the window next to me on days I work from home and sleeps next to my head. He's pretty great. Here he is stealing my pillow:

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      Jennifer, however, is very jealous that the cat likes me best. When we decided to get a cat in the first place, we decided after much research that a Russian Blue had exactly the temperament we were looking for. So we got on a waiting list with a breeder of Russian Blues. We were a bit impatient. So we ended up adopting Dimitri pretty quickly after that. Now, about 5 months down the line, Jennifer was getting impatient again. Dimitri loves me and is a little stand-offish at times with other people, including her. She wants a cat who wants her to pet them. So a couple weeks ago I started looking at local animal shelters/rescues for a cat that would fit her criteria. That's where we found this girl:


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      on Friday March 9th we went down to the local animal shelter and adopted her. Her name is Katya, and she is friendly with everyone including the kids. So that's nice. I assumed at this point, two cats in, that we would remove ourselves from the breeder's list, but Jennifer said she wanted to stay on it. 


      We took Katya to the vet on Monday the 12th to get her all checked out. We'd been keeping her separated from Dimitri until then in case it turned out she had anything contagious. The doctor said she was in heat and had an ear infection from ear mites but that we should let the two cats interact anyway because if one cat in the house has ear mites, the other one is going to get it. So we set a date to have her spayed and went home to introduce them.


      They don't get along super well. Dimitri is a little bit of a bully to the new cat on the block, and Katya is very timid, always retreating when he starts to follow. I thought maybe he was trying to play and she just wasn't interested. He is less than a year old, and she's 2 according to the pound, though I'm not sure how they determine that. Mostly he just follows her. There's a little hissing on occasion from either of them, and twice we've seen him walk up to her and smack her on the head. She just leaves. 


      So we introduced them after her vet visit last Monday. The next day, Tuesday the 13th, we get an email from the breeder. They've had a new litter of kittens, and if we still want one, we can have him in May. Jennifer says yes, absolutely. So in a couple of months we're going to have 3 cats. 0-3 in less than a year. That's kind of fast.


      Yesterday I take Katya to the vet for her spay appointment. They weigh her, and she's almost a full pound heavier than her first appointment. I was like, wow, she must be living a lot better here than she was on the street or at the pound to be gaining that much weight that quickly. 


      Today I go back to pick her up, and the doctor explains that the surgery went well. He says, "I had to make a slightly bigger incision than usual because she was pregnant, but I'm sure you knew that." No, no we did not. "She was pregnant?" "Yes, very advanced actually. Probably about 2 months." When I leave I Google cat gestation period. 64-67 days. So if he was right on the two months, she could have had those kittens pretty much any time. Jennifer is outraged that they didn't call or anything to say, hey, by the way, your cat is pregnant, should we continue? I'm not thrilled either. Basically I feel like I just paid to murder a bunch of kittens. Which, not a great feeling, if you were wondering. 


      Anyway, she's back home and seems to be doing ok. The kids love her because Dimitri is scared of them and won't often let them get too close, while Katya is happy to sit in their laps and be petted. I think she must have been someone's cat before ending up at the shelter. Because she's very chill. 


      Anyone who has advice on having 3 cats around or helping cats get along with each other better, feel free to chime in. Anyway, that's what's been going on here. How's everyone else?

    • Fantasy Fights: Tiny But Fierce

      8 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      100 imaginary points if you can identify the source of the subtitle on this journal.


      Last round results:

      Jessica Jones vs Ant-Man

      Scott quickly shrinks down and starts jumping around and punching Jessica. The hits are powerful, but Jessica can take it. What she can't seem to do is land a hit of her own. He's just too small and quick. So it seems like they're at a stand-still, until Ant-Man tries his last-ditch effort. He grows enormous and moves to step on her instead. It works. Eww.


      Quake vs Dark Willow

      Daisy throws out an arm to shoot a blast of quake-force at Willow, but the evil magic girl deflects it with a wave of her hand. Then with a second wave, she rips Quake's skin from her body, and that's all she wrote. Once again, eww.


      Time for a new round. Hopefully less messy than the last one.


      Aang vs Magneto

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      Aang is the Avatar, master of all 4 bending disciplines. He can manipulate air, water, fire and earth. He can also use the Avatar State a connection to all of his past lives, harnessing the experience and skill of all of his many past lives to do incredible powerful things, such as creating new islands or surviving for 100 years encased in ice. 


      Magento is the master of magnetism. His ability to manipulate metal ranges from the microscopic to objects the size of buildings or even larger. He can use his powers to make himself fly (by wearing metal on his body) and his manipulation of magnetic fields extends to generating forcefields around himself to block attacks or even survive in space.


      Black Canary vs Harry Dresden

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      Black Canary is an expert in a dozen forms of martial arts and hand-to-hand combat. She's one of the top fighters in the DC universe, and that's without her power. The Canary Cry is a sonic shockwave she can create from her mouth that is powerful enough to destroy almost anything in its path if she's trying hard enough.


      Harry Dresden is a private investigator and a wizard. He can manipulate the forces of nature. He's most skilled with fire and force, but he's got skills with wind and earth magic as well. His magical foci increase his ability to channel his power. For instance, his blasting rod can help him generate extremely powerful gouts of flame, while his shield bracelet lets him create a shield that can be tuned to block anything from bullets and magic to light and sound. He's got a bullet-proof duster and usually a gun in his pocket.


      Pick one winner from each fight.

    • Fantasy Fights: Rosefall

      8 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      This round, things weren't even kinda close. Previous round results:


      Larfleeze vs M. Bison

      Bison comes into the arena and does a bunch of lightning fast punches and kicks and then floats in the air to try and intimidate his opponent. Larfleeze counters by creating a couple of orange light constructs, which grab Bison by his arms and drag him into space where he dies a horrible painful death by vacuum. As they fly off, Larfleeze yells, "And bring back his stuff. It's all mine now!"


      Shang Tsung vs Ruby Rose

      Ruby is warming up for her fight when she sees her sister Yang approaching. Ruby runs to hug her, only to take a hidden blade straight through the heart. Shang Tsung transforms back into himself and then eats the little huntress's tasty tasty soul.


      This round:

      Jessica Jones vs Ant-Man

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      MCU Jessica Jones is super strong, very fast, incredibly durable and has faster than normal healing abilities. She can also fly, sort of, not really. She never really mastered the skill. So it's more like jumping super high and then having more control over the fall than most people would. She's also a mean drunk and quite a capable fighter. And season 2 of her series comes out tomorrow. Woo!


      Scott Lang's Ant-Man can get really small and sometimes really big. He's got discs that can cause the same things to happen to objects they hit. It's unclear if they'd work on people, but they work on ants. So there's a good chance. He can also control ants. In addition, he's a very smart engineer and a more-than-capable thief.


      Quake vs Dark Willow:

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      Daisy Johnson aka Quake is an Inhuman with a very versatile ability to make things shake. This can be anything from creating massive seismic activity to blasting a wave of power out of her hands to throw people across the room. She may even be capable of harnessing the power to such a degree that she could destroy a planet. Hence her future nickname, Destroyer of Worlds. She's also an expert in hand-to-hand and weapons combat, trained by Melinda May.


      When Willow Rosenberg went back, she went very bad. She has crazy-strong but not super specific magical powers. Examples include, flaying a man alive with a wave of her hand, the ability to absorb the magic of others (even right out of books), telekinesis, controlling fire and lightning, maybe it's easier just to say, she magics. She does magic. She is magical. The end. Sidenote: she too may be capable of single-handedly destroying the world.


      Pick one winner from each fight.

    • Fantasy Fights: Return of the Jedi bias

      8 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      Previous round results:


      Martian Manhunter vs Predator

      Angry at being replaced by Cyborg in the Justice League movie, Martian Manhunter is out to prove that feature film bad guys have nothing on him. He comes in swinging. A super-powered punch puts the Predator through the ceiling of the arena and sends him flying. By the time the Martian hero finds where he landed, deep in a nearby forest, the other alien is gone. The Predator has activated his suit's camouflage ability, and since he can't see his opponent, the Manhunter has to reach out with is mind, trying to track the creature. He gets a general direction, if not an exact fix, and heads that way quickly, making himself invisible to match his opponent, and then intangible as well. Floating through trees as he searched, he only finds out that his invisibility isn't effective against the predator's species when a beam of energy passes right through him. He returns fire using his eye beams and just nicks the predator's camouflaged form as it moves away. The laser that missed the Martian Manhunter, though, did not miss the canopy of trees above him. The orange fall leaves light up like a matchstick, and before long, the entire forest is aflame. The Martian Manhunter can't escape and burns. Predator lives to fight another day.


      Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Sylar

      As they face off against each other, Obi-Wan activates his lightsaber. Sylar looks at it with interest. "Now how does that work, I wonder." And with a casual movement, he telekinetically pulls it from Obi-Wan's hand. However, it pauses in mid-air as Obi-Wan reaches out with the force to pull it back. "Come now, be nice." Sylar says, showing almost no respect for his opponent, and with his other hand he sends out a blast of ice, freezing the jedi's feet to the ground. This distracts Obi-Wan enough for Sylar to pull the saber to his own hand. He then flicks it off as he investigates the strange device, ignoring his immobilized opponent completely. "It's like a laser sword." He says with an interested tone. "The energy is focusing through a crystal, but what powers it." He looks down the barrel of the lightsaber, which proves to be a fatal mistake as Obi-Wan uses the force to reactivate his sword.


      This round:


      Larfleeze vs M. Bison

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      Larfleeze is the one and only Orange Lantern. The orange light is powered by Avarice, meaning that to be compatible with its power, you have to be way too selfish to want to share that power. So while the power of say, the green light is spread among all the members of the Green Lantern Corps, the power of the orange light is concentrated solely in Larfleeze. This basically he means he can do anything a Green Lantern can do, but way more powerfully. He also tends to create fake beings with his orange light to go out and do what he wants. It's almost like he has his own lantern corps, they're just all light constructs created and controlled by him, a personal army, if you will.


      M. Bison is a megalomaniac with an unbridled lust for power. He is one of the most skilled fighters in the Street Fighter universe, using a martial art he invented. Integral to his fighting art is the Psycho Power that he wields. The power feeds off of hate and anger. It allows him to do things like float, teleport, add an energy component to his strikes and even mind-control some weaker minds.


      Shang Tsung vs Ruby Rose

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      Shang Tsung is a powerful sorcerer who can live forever as long as he keeps consuming the souls of others. His magic is mostly fire-based, allowing him to do things like shoot flaming skulls at people, or create bursts of fire out of nothing. His signature ability, though, is a side-effect of absorbing so many souls. He can change form at will, shapeshifting to take on the appearance of others. It's not just looks, when he takes on the form of someone else, he gets some of their memories and powers as well. Centuries of experience have made him an expert fighter, whatever form he takes.


      Leader of Team RWBY, Ruby Rose trained for years to become a huntress, the elite monster killers of Remnant. To this goal, she designed and built her own weapon, the Crescent Rose, an enormous, deadly scythe that she can wield with scary ease and precision. The weapon transforms into a sniper rifle for headshotting opponents from a distance or to fire while flying through the air so she can ride the enormous recoil. Her Semblance allows her to move between two points so quickly that it looks almost like she's teleporting, except for the trails of rose petals she usually leaves in her wake.


      Pick one winner from each fight.

    • Fantasy Fights: Heavy Metal

      8 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      For those of you who are playing for the first time, I thought I should clarify one other thing. I like to write the fights in a way that reflects the vote count. So if the vote was close, the fight will be close. If the vote was one-sided, the fight will reflect that. Thought I'd mention that as it's about to become relevant.


      Previous Round Results:

      Bane vs Nebula

      Bane starts out by bulking up with Venom. In his moment of distraction Nebula rushes in, a long blade folding out of her robotic arm and into her hand. It looks like it's going to be over quickly, but Bane's hand shoots up and in the blink of an eye, he's holding her by the wrist, grinning. He suckered her in close by pretending to be distracted. "Pretty little toy." He says, a grin obvious through his accent. And then sounds come from her metal wrist as he crushes it in his enhanced grip. Nebula screams, more in frustration than in pain. Then he lifts her from the ground by the damaged arm and throws her across the room. He laughs as she lies on the floor, cradling her crushed arm. "Women." He says dismissively. "They always think they're so clever. They expect every man to underestimate them." He walks over and grabs her by the neck, lifting her off the ground. "Don't worry, little blue girl. I will make this quick." Then his eyes go wide as the second blade she was hiding penetrates his heart. "You're right." Nebula says as her opponent drops to the ground. "It does help to have someone underestimate you." 


      Optimus Prime vs Cloud

      Optimus walks into the arena and looks around, searching for his opponent. After a while, when no opponent appears, Optimus turns to leave when he notices something, lifting up his foot, he sees something on the bottom. "Someone left gum on the floor." He says, annoyed. "And there's yellow hair in it. That is disgusting."


      Today's matchups:


      Fight 1:

      Martian Manhunter vs Predator

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      Martian Manhunter is, as his name implies, a Martian, and he has a whole heap o' powers, including superhuman strength, durability, flight, regeneration, shape-shifting, intangibility, invisibility, telepathy, telekinesis, extrasensory input, and optic blasts. He also has psychic abilities. Many/most of his power is negated, though, when confronted with his one glaring weakness, fire.


      Predators are another alien race, consummate hunters, they're always looking for a challenge. They are big, strong, and much more resilient to damage than humans. This one has power armor with all manor of toys, including a big laser cannon on the back. Another notable trait is their vision, which can see a wider spectrum than humans, including infrared and ultraviolet.


      Fight 2:

      Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Sylar

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      Obi-Wan is an accomplished Jedi, with the normal suite of Jedi abilities. He's got the Force, which lets him move things with his mind, fool the weak-minded, run fast, jump high, etc.. He's got a lightsaber. We're talking Obi-Wan at his best here, right around the time he was beating Anakin's ass in the middle of a lava river.


      Sylar (Heroes, Season 1 Sylar to be specific) is a complete psychopath with a variety of super powers. He likes to kill people with super powers and take their brains for himself to acquire their powers. His powers include, figuring out how things work, super hearing, super memory, the ability to paint the future, telekinesis (which he can focus with enough precision that he uses it to slice heads open for the tasty brains inside), freezing powers, and the ability to melt things. And each time he kills someone special he can take their powers for himself.


      Pick one winner from each fight.

    • Fantasy Fights: Undead-Off

      8 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      It's been a decent amount of time for people to vote. So let's see how the first round went.


      Previous Round Results:

      The Witch-King of Angmar vs Count Dracula

      The battle begins ferociously, with the Witch-King swooping in off his horse and taking a swing at the Count. The ringwraith's blade holds dark magic, but still passes through Dracula without the least resistance. The Count does not fear his opponent, which weakens the With-King's magic considerably. The vampire counters by trying to employ his mental powers, to project illusions or even penetrate his opponent's mind, but he quickly realizes that the being he is up against is also no longer mortal. Neither of their powers can touch the other. The count adapts quickly, moving in for a purely physical attack, lifting his opponent with sheer muscle power and hurling him through the air, but the wraith lands with liquid grace. It's a stalemate, none of the count's transformations helps, animal fangs and claws are no more useful than human hands against the incorporeal wraith, and for his part, the Dark Captain's weapons are equally useless, until the sun rises. The light of day weakens the leader of the Nazgul, but it neutralizes the Count's powers almost completely. Blades can now bite, and even weakened, the wraith makes short work of his opponent beneath the sun's rays.


      Black Panther vs Dalek

      The King of Wakanda circles his opponent warily, not sure what to expect, but the Dalek has no such hesitation. "Exterminate!" it shrieks, and a bolt of energy shoots from its blaster attachment. The Black Panther is knocked backward, landing in a sprawl, suit smoking. He survived, thanks to the Vibranium in his suit, but it hurt. It hurt a lot. Not to be deterred, he leaps back to his feet, only to be hit by another bolt. "Exterminate!" the Dalek shrieks again, almost petulantly on the second try. This time, though, T'Challa braces himself, ready for the hit, and he keeps his feet. He takes a step forward and then grunts as he's hit by a third blast. Then a fourth, and a fifth, each accompanied by another step and another pained but determined sound. Then, as the sixth bolt of energy blast out, he surprises the Dalek with a super-human leap into the air, a leap that lands him directly on top of the armored killing machine. After that, his Vibranium claws shred the Dalek to little bite sized chunks of armor and goo.


      So The Witch-King of Angmar and Black Panther came out on top. Now for today's matches:


      Bane vs Nebula

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      Bane employs a super steroid called Venom to give himself incredible strength, making him able to lift 15 tons. Not just brawny, he's also a genius, with an eidetic memory, able to speak 10 languages and a mastery of strategy and tactics. 


      Nebula is a cyborg with a robotic left eye and arm. She was trained for battle from an early age, a great strategist and master of both armed and unarmed combat forms. She is extremely strong, durable, and agile. With the ability to heal rapidly and auto-repair her cybernetic components, she is very hard to kill. And being an expert pilot and markswoman means she's lethal from a distance as well as up close.


      Optimus Prime vs Cloud

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      Optimus Prime is the leader of the autobots, mechanical lifeforms from the planet Cybertron. He is made of metal, weighing somewhere in the vicinity of 4 tons. He can transform into a semi-truck to hide among humans, but in his robot form he is one of the strongest Cybertronians alive, a battle leader with centuries of experience, he weilds an ion blaster rifle and an energon axe. 


      Cloud Strife, former Shinra footsoldier (not actually SOLDIER), is a seemingly normal human with a penchant for wielding enormous swords. He's shown remarkable strength and endurance. He shrugs off bullets and many normal magic attacks. He has a history of obliterating giant monsters, often with minimal effort. So it's hard to gauge just how inherently powerful he is. On top of his normal abilities, he's can use magic. His buster sword contains two materia slots, in which he has fire and lightning materia equipped for this battle.


      So who do you guys think will come out on top here? Pick one winner from each fight.

    • Famous Original Data's Fantasy Fights

      8 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      Here we go. For the uninitiated, let me run through how this works real quick. I have selected 32 characters from across the whole span of fiction, comics, movies, tv, books, video games. Using a random number generator I have paired them up in a tournament to do battle for your amusement.


      Each post will have two matchups. I'll give a brief overview of each character, describing their abilities, and then you will post comments voting for one winner from each matchup. So each comment should have two characters in it, who you want to win each fight.


      After I've decided we've had enough time or votes, I will make a new post with a blow-by-blow of the previous two fights as well as the new matchups for you to vote on. Pretty simple, right? Good.


      Round 1: Fight!


      First fight:

      The Witch-King of Angmar vs Dracula

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      The Black Captain, Lord of the Nazgul, is a Ringwraith, men who took the rings of power and fell under the sway of Sauron. Their original forms were lost, now existing mostly in the wraith world and invisible to the eyes of mortals. This makes The Black Captain very difficult to harm. Mortal weapons have little to no effect. It's a double-edged sword though because they couldn't interact with mortal stuff either, meaning they are ineffective unless using the disguises and weapons provided by Sauron, which are extremely powerful and deadly. The Nazgul also haved magic they could use to devastating effect, chief among which is the aura of terror that surrounds them, inspiring crippling fear in all living creatures. Though this too is something of a double-edged sword, as Tolkien said, "They have no great physical power against the fearless, but what they have, and the fear that they inspire, is enormously increased in darkness"


      There have been lots of versions of Dracula. For this fight, we're going with traditional descriptions as laid down by Bram Stoker. That means he has a panoply of powers, but most of them are useless or very nearly so during daylight. He can transform into animals, including a bat, a giant wolf, and a large dog, but probably others as well. He can also become mist. He also has some limited mental control over animals, such as summoning a swarm of rats to do his dirty work. He can pass through any barrier as if it weren't with limitations relating to holy/blessed spaces and dwellings where people live. He has super strength, described as the equal of 20 strong men. He also has superhuman agility and is even able to climb vertical surfaces. The ability to mess with people's minds, hypnotizing people and creating illusions. Then there's the whole blood drinking thing, the Count's own double-edged sword. He needs nothing else to survive, but he does need that blood.


      Second Fight:

      Black Panther vs a Dalek

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      The Black Panther is granted by the panther goddess Bast with superhuman acute senses, enhanced strength, speed, agility, stamina, durability, healing, and reflexes. His suit is laced with Vibranium, the hardest substance known, meaning that his panther claws can rip through just about anything.


      The Daleks are genetically engineered psychopathic killing machines, encased in polycarbide battle armor. They can fly. They can use their plunger like arms as swiss-army multi-tools that can do almost anything, and then there's the extermination beam cannon on their other arm. The can also generate a force field to protect the Dalek from projectiles and other attacks. They do nothing but kill, and they do it extremely well.


      Vote for one winner from each fight. Debates, arguments, recriminations, and verbal assaults are encouraged.

    • I think we have a plan

      8 months ago

      datalaughing Always Right

      So I got a few responses on my question from yesterday (feel free to look and respond if you haven't yet), and I think I've got an idea about what kind of stuff people might be interested in. 


      Like Radius said, I'd love to see Mafia again, but I don't think we've got enough people to plan that at the moment. So I'm going to keep that in mind as something we could do in the future if we get more activity. 


      On the flip side, I really love some of the stuff @MichyGeary threw out about a collaborative story, and I'm going to be thinking of my own spin to put on that idea. So that's something I like a lot that I think I might try to do a little down the line.


      In the short term, there was interest in both Fantasy Fights and a Choose Your Own Adventure sort of thing as well as one request for a movie quote game. So I think I shall try to accommodate all three of these. Though not at the same time. I think we will do Fantasy Fights first. So I'm going to begin working on selecting competitors for that (feel free to comment with suggestions, but I make no promises about who will be fighting). For those of you who participated back in the day, this is going to be a complete reboot. So anyone could reappear, from former champions like Yoda and River Tam to previous first-round washouts like Brock Samson. Expect to see that begin within the next few days. 


      After that's complete, we'll do the choose your own adventure story thing, and somewhere in there I'll throw together a movie quote garden. Because that's the quickest and easiest to do, it could show up at any point.


      And because it's been in my head today, here's a random quote. Can anyone identify the source on this one without cheating? Your only hint is, it was a TV show:


      "How much did President Jefferson pay for the Louisiana purchase?"

      "Well, uh, let's see, in D.C. the most you can take out of the ATM is $300, and you would wanna hold back a twenty in case something come up. So I'm gonna say $280."

  • Comments (1834)

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      1 year ago

      https://discord.gg/pCYUqeS if you ever want to rejoin the ranks of the sponsor chat plebs!

    • monopoly_j

      1 year ago

      Happy Birthday!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        1 year ago

        Thanks!

      • monopoly_j

        1 year ago

        Any big plans?

    • CapDac

      2 years ago

      I know you have a PS4, dunno if you have a One, but gonna be some old school Haloz for the next few hours if you do and want to

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        2 years ago

        Wish I could. I've got a One, but I let my xbox live lapse because I never used it. Also, getting everything ready tonight to head to Disney World tomorrow.

      • CapDac

        2 years ago

        All good.  Maybe another time

    • CapDac

      2 years ago

      I'm almost done with Codex Alera. Do we know when Peace Talks comes out yet?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        2 years ago

        Nope, still no word unfortunately. You enjoying the Alera books? Quite different from the Dresden Files.

      • CapDac

        2 years ago

        Yeah, having a good old time. On the last book now. First three were great, fourth one seemed like a bit of a step back, fifth was pretty cool, and I'm enjoying the last one. All pretty cool.

    • monopoly_j

      3 years ago

      Happy Birthday!

    • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

      3 years ago

      Your header is a gif. How do get.

    • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

      3 years ago

      Your header is a gif. How do get.

    • monopoly_j

      3 years ago

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    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      4 years ago

      hmm why weren't we friends...

      I've had this issue with dimono before. He mysteriously is not on my friendlist. Is this hazing...a site glitch? Or does an alter-ego of mine mess things up...

      or did you remove me D:

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        That is weird. I haven't removed anyone recently. Now I'll have to keep an eye on my list as well just to make sure.

    • craZboy87 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Retired Guardian Hat

      4 years ago

      Have you read Blood of Olympus yet? I'm just over 70% now and will probably stay up at least until I finish tonight.

      • craZboy87 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Retired Guardian Hat

        4 years ago

        Yeah, that has a lot of potential.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        The Norse Mythology one? I've been hearing some stuff about that. Could be interesting. Have you read the two short stories that crossover the Percy Jackson series with the Kane Chronicles? That seems to be leading to something cool as well.

      • craZboy87 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Retired Guardian Hat

        4 years ago

        Yeah, a little bit, but I was happy with it overall. Did you also see the page for the next book/series?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I read right through it on Tuesday. Some great stuff in there. Though the whole thing felt a little rushed to me as they tried to wrap everything up.

    • edwin

      4 years ago

      I ended up playing Town of Salem for four hours when I needed to be studying for a mid-term tomorrow.

      So, thank you.

    • jedipoet

      4 years ago

      lolz
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      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Trufax.

    • Maiu

      4 years ago

      Uh, so, @Blehninja and I started making a religion for @Zack, but then I realized I technically belong to the Church of DataLaughing, so, as my prophet, please guide me down the path that is Rooster Teeth.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Funny you should mention that, I totally have a religion here. Datanomics (also known as Datatology, Dataism, Datadyne, Data's Witnesses, Datagenics, The Church of Awesomeness, and the Mad Skillz Coalition) is always happy to help people looking for the truth.

    • CapDac

      4 years ago

      You said that Butcher has hinted at a time travel book at some point?

      Re-reading Changes. Sanya just found out about Harry working for Mab, and in cautioning him, says "She knows secrets Time himself has forgotten."

      Time himself?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, I noted that to. Might just be a Russian sort of expression, but Father Time is something that people say. So who knows.

    • CapDac

      4 years ago

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    • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

      4 years ago

      What's your recommendation for a must see on Netflix? I don't watch much, so as long as it isn't Pulp Fiction, or the three newest James Bond movies, you should be good,

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        And you were telling me to watch Firefly...

        io9.com/fireflys-cast-will-reunite-fo...

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        Wait, it's really only 13 episodes? Guess so.
        Binge Watching timesheets below.

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      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        If you haven't seen Firefly, I totally recommend you start with that and the related movie, Serenity. The series is short (only 13 episodes), but they are absolutely essential to be familiar with in today's geek culture.

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        Makes sense. I've watched all of Sherlock and House before, so I might have to check some of the other shows out. I'll look through your movie list as well!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        If you absolutely need movies than I would recommend anything you see in the movies section of my profile or almost anything on this list of DVDs I own: datalaughing.filmaf.com/owned

        See, if I like a movie I usually just buy it. So I don't know how many of those have made it to Netflix since I have no need to watch them there.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Honestly, I don't watch a lot of movies on Netflix. So I'm not really sure what your options are. I use Netflix for TV shows mostly. As far as shows go, I can recommend several, Buffy, Firefly, Psych, Farscape, The Guild, Once Upon a Time, Sherlock, How I Met Your Mother, House, New Girl. All fun shows on Netflix.

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      4 years ago

      And you tried tagging me in an edit. I thought I was the pleb mod, but you are in the running.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        You cut me deep, Shrek. You cut me real deep just now.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Like how you completely intended to be slower than me to post? MWAHAHAHA.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Completely intentional.

    • SharpAsATack

      4 years ago

      So during our stay in Colorado Poet and I bought Storm Front. I finished it the other day and really enjoyed it, I especially like how even though he's clever Harry isn't a massive bad ass and spends much of the book getting the shit kicked out of him and not really finding a ton of clues, but solving the mystery anyway. I'm not big on reading a series of books because they never seem to go anywhere. Is it really worth reading all of them?

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        The first couple of books have sort of a 'villain of the week' thing going on, but by the end of the book two, he realises there's a bigger game being played

      • SharpAsATack

        4 years ago

        And I hope I finished it before Poet, I told him I would.

      • SharpAsATack

        4 years ago

        I was worried that it was going to be a villain of the week sort of deal, but if there's more to it I guess I'll keep reading.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Nope. That sums it up really accurately.

        That same flair never falters through the books. There's a continual sense of danger that Harry or his mates could get the shit kicked out of them without warning, and unlike a lot of other books it doesn't get grim or depressing as a result, but remains actively engaging.

        Helps that there's a veritable fuckton of exceptionally written characters that you really feel for.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        In fact, while I'm thinking about it, am I wrong @CapDac ?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, Poet texted me the other day to tell me he just finished it and really enjoyed it. Harry has a tendency to get the shit kicked out of him pretty thoroughly before the end of a story. It's sort of endearing.

        And, yes, this series is definitely worth reading. Dac will tell you the same because he just finished recently. This series really does go somewhere. For the first couple of books you might get the impression that it's kind of a villain of the week sort of thing and once everything is done he's back in the same place that he started, but as you progress you realize that everything is building. Things that he learns along the way, people he fights or makes friends with, it all comes back around and is important to the overall narrative. He loses people, meets new people, gradually grows in his ability with magic as he experiences more stuff, makes deals or gets involved with things that he really shouldn't have and then has to deal with the consequences as the books progress, and it all fits into something much bigger going on that Harry doesn't even really start to see the shape of until he's neck deep in it. Jim Butcher really knows how to tell a story.

    • CapDac

      4 years ago

      Alright, something's bugging me. I'm onto Dead Beat again and there's something about the number of villains that's bugging me. The book states that there are six necromancers in town, but as far as I can tell there's only four: Cowl, Kumori, Grevane and the Corpsetaker. Including Mavra, who is absent from the action for most of the book, still only brings it to five.

      I know Cassius and Li Xian are on the side of the villains, and if we exclude Mavra, then there's six villains, but as far as I can tell, former Denarian Cassius and ghoul Li Xian aren't actually necromancers, or if they are, they don't seem to do much of it. Their respective partners do all the heavy lifting.

      Additionally, when Harry visits Mort Lindquist and the ghosts use Mort's map to point out the number of villains, and it doesn't account for them all. Grevane and Cassius were at one site, Kumori at another, and Corpsetaker and Li Xian at the third. That leaves three, which can only be covered by Cowl and Mavra. So who's the sixth there?

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Probably. Or he read the end of that bloody chapter and thought "boom, my work done"

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Well, I buy it as the end note if a chapter because its all dramatic. "Oh no! How will he ever beat that many of them?!" As for the book blurb, I'd never read that until just now. Sounds like it was written by someone who hadnt actually read the book.

        I don't know if they ever actually reference that he thought there were six of them again. When he calls the wardens he says that there are 3 apprentices of Kemmler in town and that they each have a drummer. So that's 6 total baddies by his count. So maybe the book jacket guy just thought, "the bad guys are necromancers, there are 6 bad guys, so six necromancers. Done. Where's my money?"

        Post edited 6/23/14 7:07AM

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Yeah, that was the scene. And I guess, but given that's a chapter-ending note, it seems like a pretty big thing to not bring up again. Or if they did, I don't remember it.

        Also, the blurb on the back of the book mentions six, although I'm more willing to believe that could be an error

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        When you say the book specifically mentions there being 6, I'm guessing you're talking about the scene with Harry and Mort? I think that is probably just them drawing an incorrect conclusion from the stuff they found. He saw that many spots of necromantic energy and immediately assumes they're all different people. One of them was a cemetery and one was in Undertown beneath the airport. We can figure that at least one of those was also Grevand since he shows up to get Butters with a couple zombies in his party even before killing the guard. Cowl, on the other hand, specifically mentions later that he wasn't bothering with a bunch of raising the dead because he didn't need to for his plan. So none of the spots belonged to him probably. Harry just doesn't have enough info at that point to know exactly how many are out there. So he seems to assume the worst. I think it's just part of being a detective. Sometimes you don't have all the info and you end up drawing the wrong conclusions.

        Post edited 6/23/14 6:56AM

    • CapDac

      4 years ago

      That was pretty awesome.

      Nick got fucked up.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Exactly. During Ghost Story I couldn't work out if everything had gone to shit because of the Fomor or the Corpsetaker, because the Fomor just weren't present enough

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        It's true, as far as Harry is concerned they haven't really done much to him. He's busy with other stuff.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Would be good. And the Fomor conflict needs to come front and centre. At the moment the Fomor are trying to fill the void the Red Court left behind, and narrative-wise, they aren't quite up to it because the Red Court made it so personal with the protagonist. The Fomor haven't done that, and they haven't been in the spotlight, so they need to dazzle us.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, I was actually just thinking that Mavra could show up to some peace talks and Harry would have to play nice, which he'd just hate. I'm actually really hoping that Peace Talks will be a bunch of people coming together to try to build an alliance against the Fomor. They have been trying to screw over pretty much everybody at this point.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        I dunno...while Ursiel and Lasciel are in the most secure place they could be, surviving villains do have a nasty habit of reappearing unexpectedly. Case in point, Quintus Cassius. And if even Maeve could be corrupted, there's no telling who could fall to Nemesis's reach and go in and out of the Underworld. Notice how no one mentioned Nemesis this go around?

        Hmmm...seems a bit out of character. Harry's not a great liar; faking an accent seems like a stretch.

        I could see Marcone or Mab hosting peace negotiations...or hell, Mac. As to the other party...well, if not the Fomor then who? There's not a lot of long-standing hostilities in play right now. The White Court are ignoring it all, the Denarians are licking their wounds...Mavra and the Black Court, maybe? She hasn't been seen since Dead Beat

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I'm sure Marcone knew Harry was gone. He's been working with Murphy's people to keep Chicago under control since Dresden "died," after all. Actually, it must have taken years to set up this scam with Mab and Hades. If he's been working with Mab that long it's entirely possible that he knew that Harry was never really dead.

        The mordite crown really was creepily badass.

        I imagine that bringing Ferovax's name back in was no coincidence. I suspect we'll see him again soon.

        It was the first time we've seen Lasciel like that. It was cool, but it does make you wonder what it would have looked like if she and Harry had actually bonded. Can't really see Harry doing the purple tentacle/skimpy outfit look. Sadly it looks like she may be out of the picture now. Both her coin and Ursiel's coin are apparently buried beneath tons of rock in the deepest most secure part of the Underworld. Gonna be hard to get those back into circulation. Then again you have to figure Hades will have some kind of cleanup crew down there fixing his vault before long. Though now we do have Harry and Lash's brain baby, which should be pretty interesting. I can't wait to find out more about her, actually. It's like Maggie has a half-sister.

        The Brit in the prison is interesting. The most popular theory seems to be that it's Merlin, that he locked himself away there at some point in the distant past. Seems too obvious to me, though. Another theory I like is that it was Harry putting on a fake accent to fool himself. Apparently Jim has hinted that there will be a time travel story at some point. So if Harry winds up stuck in the past somehow, he might decide that the best way back to his own time would be to go into stasis inside of Demonreach until the right moment came.

        The next book will apparently be called Peace Talks. Not sure who that will involve. From the Bombshells short story we know the only reason the Fomor would sit down to talk peace is so they could find a more convenient spot to stick the knife into someone's back. So I doubt it will be them. Maybe some of the other groups will sit down to form an alliance against the Fomor. So it could be peace talks with the white council, white court, winter court, we could even see Ferovax or Drakul showing up. Wouldn't surprise me to see Marcone and/or Mab hosting talks like that.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Yeah, aside from the short story we haven't seen him at all since Changes. Did he even know Harry kicked the bucket?

        Loved the heist angle. A genre piece in a series with all these characters I really like. Awesome stuff. As soon as Harry described the code he was speaking in to Grey, I thought 'I am going to break my brain every time I reread this book now'.

        I noticed they deliberately pointed out how Hades is unfairly depicted in the media. Loved him playing with Cerberus. That whole scene was just awesome. The mordite crown gave me chills.

        The Maggie scene was BRUTAL. "Would you like to be my dad?" I had to set it down for a minute.

        Well, Butcher has said it'll go to an apocalyptic trilogy to cap the series off, and since they'd need the Grail to set it off, perfect angle for Nicodemus to show up again...I should get in on that thread.

        I also couldn't help but notice Ferrovax is among Marcone's clients storing things in his vault. I still wonder what that guy got at Bianca's party.

        Also - this was the first time we've seen Lasciel in full, right? She didn't hang around for long, considering how much of a presence she was in previous books.

        Also - what's the deal with the British inmate under Demonreach?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, we haven't seen Marcone for a while, unless you count that short story. I think he's changing a bit too. He's obviously becoming influential on the spooky side of things, and what's going on in Chicago must have taken a toll on him as well.

        I liked this one a lot. Classic heist style, complete with the fact that you have to read the book at least twice because Ascher and Grey both have a lot of lines that read completely differently when you know what they're hiding.

        I hadn't really considered it, but you're right, Harry does have some seriously heavy hitters in his corner at this point, including freaking Santa Clause. I loved the scene with him and Hades. In fact, it's nice to see Hades played as a decent guy for once.

        Lots of great moments in this one, in fact. I mean, Butters and his lightsaber of faith was hilariously awesome. Harry meeting Maggie actually had me tearing up. "Are you mad at me?" "Why would I be mad at you?" "Because you aren't ever here. Never, ever." Seriously got to me.

        Interesting theory that I brought up in the Jim Butcher thread: back in book 7 when Harry summoned the Erlking, he needed 5 items with a connection to the Erlking to use in the summoning. In Hades vault, they found 5 items relating to the Crucifixion. Hades says they're weapons, and Harry indicates that they are each powerful in their own right, but I was thinking that it's possible that their real power is what they can do all together. They may be setting it up for the literal Second Coming. Judgment day.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        So. Thoughts? Favourite set piece?

        I can't be the only one who thinks between Hades, Odin, Uriel and Mab, Dresden is packing up a severe league of powerful friends to back him up. Who next, Osiris?

        Also, was that the first time Harry and Marcone crossed paths since Changes?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        In more ways than one.

    • buckeyedon Crackpottist

      4 years ago

      roosterteeth.com/forum/viewTopic.php?id=222251...

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    • CapDac

      4 years ago

      My copy of Skin Game has been ordered and despatched, hopefully arrive this week. Might be next. No idea. Been reading the series from the start again; just got up to Death Masks. Seems fitting that'll be the last one I read before Skin Game arrives, since it's Nicodemus's first appearance.

      Meanwhile, the guy I'm lending them to at work just finished Dead Beat and had a good chuckle about the Tyrannosaur

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        I remember reading about her as a kid. Suffice to say the authors of those dinosaur magazines did not mention using her as a steed.

        Hopefully mine comes quick enough so you don't beat me by too much

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Haha, who doesn't love Sue? I actually saw her when I was in Chicago. I was looking for somewhere to spend some time, and the Field Museum and the Shedd Aquarium were right there next to each other, and I was like, uhoh, Harry has fought bad guys in both of these places, which one should I go to? Ended up in the museum. Nice place.

        I re-read a lot of the books last month in preparation for Skin Game. Though since then I've read a bunch of other stuff too. I pre-ordered a signed first edition of the book, but that probably won't be here for a while. So I'll end up getting the e-book tomorrow, probably. Because waiting is just not an option. Too excited.

    • kaosblack21 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RTX Guardian V.4.0

      4 years ago

      Hey! Looks like we will be living together for a week in few months. Are you pumped for the House of Awesome Friends at RTX this year? I can't wait to hang out with you and everyone else. It's going to be some fun times!

    • CapDac

      4 years ago

      HE FUCKING DIED?!

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Valid, I guess, but her ambition and ability to work from the shadows seems uncanny given how high profile the Raiths tend to be around each other.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I think of Lara had been working for the bad guys when Raith Deeps went down, she would have had no reason to save Harry. She could have stepped through the portal and left him to die and been all, oh, what a shame. I think she, like Marcone, is just out for herself. Also important to remember that most people don't know how important Lara is. I could buy that Papa Raith was involved in some conspiracy before Lara got control over him, but they would t have had much reason to try and recruit Lara.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Unrelated, but hilarious, I just found this:

        In Changes, there's a minor mention that Harry has seen Chandler (the British wizard that looks like John Steed) making tea for the other Wardens. At the time, it just seemed like Harry was making the point that Chandler is one, nice, and two, very British. Until you realize that that means all the other Wardens trust him enough to make them food. Think about that. Morgan let someone else make him a drink. Chandler suddenly becomes ten times more awesome.
      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        It could all be Nemesis acting in the background, but that seems a bit of a cop-out. Butcher would have to really sell it for that premise to fly. Couldn't just make it come out of nowhere. Granted, Butcher could easily do that (and it's not like he hasn't got time to try) but at present it seems kind of flat compared to some of the other stuff that's gone on.

        Yeah, Elaine has ulterior motives, and she isn't gonna survive the series. Calling that one now. As to the rest...yeah, I can see Ramirez and Ebenezar being part of it. You're right in Ebenezar's deflection in setting up the Grey Council, and if Nemesis basically enhances someone's desire to do good to the point that they'll do something bad to achieve their goal, then you could make the argument of dropping the Council into Mexico to help out his grandkid and great-grandkid as an extension of that. The other person with some clever misdirection could be Lara. There was the whole attack in the Raith Deeps, but Nemesis or the Black Council or whoever could simply have been making sure they had people on both sides of the White Court, and given that Harry and Lara sometimes team up, she'd be more valuable to them than Vitto.

        Does the Merlin hate Ebenezar? They don't get along but I never thought it was outright hatred, just displeasure he was still around. As to who else...Eb and Donar are the only confirmed...how much of a shocker would it turn out if Nicodemus was one? He all but told Harry that the Black Council (again, or whoever) ran goals counter to his own, especially after some of them infiltrated his ranks, so he might have thrown in his lot with the people working at extinguishing them. Ebenezar could have worked that recruitment. Track the bastard down, have a drink, and mention the trouble he's having with the Black Council. Think Tony Stark talking to General Ross: "What if I told you we were putting a team together?" It's a stretch, but not outside the realm of possibility.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Cristos seems like a decent candidate. Though now that we know that Nemesis is behind this stuff, there may not actually be a Black Council. I mean, we pictured it as Cowl and Vitto and Peabody and maybe Bianca and Mavra and whoever else all meeting in a room to plot things. Vitto and Madrigal even referred to it as The Circle, but if Nemesis is controlling some or all of these people, and all Outsiders work together toward a shared goal without needing to talk about it, then there may be no Circle or secret meetings. It was so organized that Harry assumed that it must be an organization, but if Nemesis can move it's different pieces simultaneously, it might just seem that way.

        As far as people we know that might secretly turn out to be evil, whether infected by Nemesis or not, I don't trust Elaine. Ramirez is too good and too nice for how young he is. So I am suspicious of him. I do trust Murphy, even if Harry was suspicious of her a bit this book. And you know there will probably be someone who you'd never expect who will turn out to be infected. My theory is Ebenezar. Creating the grey council was the perfect way to seem like you were trying to help and get people on your side while at the same time helping accomplish what the bad guys have been trying to do all along, break the white council apart.

        I think a more interesting question might be who is on the grey council? I think the Merlin might secretly be in there. Sure, he's an ass and everything, but there's no way he's stupid enough to not see what's going on in the world. Even if he hates Eb and Harry, he might be willing to throw in with people trying to fix things where he doesn't have to deal with White Council politics and infighting which probably tie his hands a lot. That's another of those things that the reader would never expect but would make sense.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Cowl really needs to come back into it. Need to work out what the hell his endgame is.

        Any thoughts as to who else may be Black Council? Given how long in advance Peabody was set up, I find it hard to believe we haven't met any other members besides Cowl and Vittorio yet.

        Bloody hell. He planned this shit well in advance.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Well, Cowl said that he and Kumori were the cloaked figures at the party. I don't remember if we see then hand the dagger off to Bianca. They're on the Dias when she's handing out gifts and one of them definitely hands her the box she gives to Ferrovax. Other than that I'm not sure. Fun fact, Lea mentions at that party all the way back in book 3 that she finds Michael's oldest daughter interesting.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        That makes sense, I guess. I'd forgotten that Sells, Denton and Kravos all had it before the knife got passed to Lea. I can't remember, was it stated that Cowl was the one who gave Bianca the knife to pass on? Would fit neatly, since Cowl is the only still-living confirmed Black Council member out there. Not sure what I think of Justin being an initial bearer, but I could see it fitting. He wants to defend against the outer darkness, possibly a mistake he had caused and wants to right, so he brings together people with the power to help and puts them through hell to call upon their talents.

        Sweet. Will Google it

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Well, we know that Nemesis was in the world before the dagger, because Lilly clearly implies that Victor Sells from book 1 and the FBI guys from 2 were infected. The dagger is just how they slipped it to Lea (which means Cowl and Kumori must have has it before then too). So if Justin was infected and Elaine got it from him, the question is, what was Justin up to? He might be the dark wizard who opened the outer gates and let it in in the first place, since we know mortal magic must open the way. It would be interesting if it turned out he started it. There were a lot of people theorizing that Elaine was secretly Kumori, but I don't buy that one.

        Also, Elaine tells Harry that Justin's mind magic messed her up and made her so scared and paranoid that she ran to the summer court (specifically Aurora) for protection. The business in Summer Knight was Aurora calling in the favor.

        He reads the first 4 chapters of Skin Game, and he puts some energy into it too. It's funny.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Just the realisation that Demonreach probably could, if he wanted to. I half-expected him during his fight with Maeve and Lily to just go "ENOUGH" and smack them into the water. Demonreach is an interesting creature. I really like watching him operate. Although I keep picturing the Man-Thing whenever I think of him, which I know is way off.

        It's possible, I guess. Nothing to really indicate either way until we learn more about the Blackstaff's background, and how Ebenezar got that job, which is something Harry has never asked.

        Didn't Aurora hire Elaine after she started setting her plot in motion? I could be wrong on that one but I thought it unfolded that way. Entirely possible if I'm wrong, though. Although it does beg the question of how Elaine contracted it, Since Mab stated pretty plainly that Lea brought it to the Fae world with Bianca's gift, I can't see how Elaine could have caught it, before or after.

        Haven't looked that up. Sounds worthwhile, though. How many chapters?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I think my favorite moment of the book is Harry saying to Demonreach, "If our guest pulls that trigger, take her below and keep her there." Very badass.

        Some other interesting theories that have come up since Cold Days came out:

        Mother Summer me tons that Mother Winter doesn't get out much because she lost her walking stick. A lot of people seem to think that her walking stick is the Blackstaff.

        Speaking of those two, Mother Summer indicates that the two if them share their most powerful name. Lots of possibilities flying around about that. My theory is they're Gaia.

        Since anyone could potentially be infected by Nemesis, there's a lot of to about who might be. I doubt Murphy or Thomas would be. They've had too many opportunities to betray Harry when he's been about to screw up one if the Adversary's plans; even just in this book. A popular suggestion, though, is Elaine. Justin DuMorbe could have been infected (explaining why a respected warden of the white council went heavy into black magic), then he could have gotten Elaine (who, Jim has confirmed was born, like Harry, under circumstances that could give her power over Outsiders, which is why Justin adopted them both), and the Elaine could be how it got to Aurora to begin with.

        You should google jim reading the beginning of Skin Game if you haven't. It seems like it's gonna be fun.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        True that. Any money that will come into play in the apocalyptic trilogy.

        There's still the possibility that the parasite Harry has is Nemesis. It isn't like they haven't had ample opportunity to infect him with it. I dunno if it's Lash, I think that storyline is firmly tied off.

        Interesting theory. Why would Mab want that option open though?


        And one of the greatest parts of Cold Days is Mother Winter describing Mab as a romantic, and Harry thinking "Well, that sums you up perfectly, lady."

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Well, you understand him better, at any rate. His gatekeeping is srs bsns.

        And, of course, the book is full of reveals that kind of change the complexion of the overall story. Nemesis is a thing. Molly becomes the winter lady. Harry had a brain parasite (popular theory is that it's Lash preparing to make a comeback). My own personal theory is that both Mab and Santa/Odin have been hinting at Harry that there's a way out of this thing for him and maybe for Molly. At the end Santa says that many mantles or masks are put on or taken off on Halloween. So that's the obvious bit. Mab makes a more subtle statement. At Harry's party Mab says that no knight has talked to them like that since the days of Tam Lin. If you read the wiki entry on Tam Lin, it actually fits with what Santa said.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        My thoughts about the Gatekeeper...didn't change as much, I guess. I kind of figured he had some bigger role to play, but although it wasn't the role I would have guessed, it's not like he's an out-and-out villain or anything, so he's still pretty well as I thought. Just has a hell of a job

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Aaaaaand that's Cold Days. Now I am current.

        That one was good. I liked how he didn't just jump straight back into everything. He's pacing it out. I like it. And the primary villain...hidden depths. Startling, I guess.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Fair enough

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I think your thoughts about the Gatekeeper will change by the end of Cold Days. So I'll leave it at that for now.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        What's your take on the Gatekeeper himself? If you can discuss that without revealing anything about this book

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, it's awesome when the island is like, "CORRECT, WARDEN." And Harry suddenly realizes just how badly he may have fucked himself over by connecting with the island. The Gatekeeper was not lying about that.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Demonreach as a whole is a fascinating concept. Right from the get-go Harry knew something was off about the place, when Nicodemus and co were hanging out on it, but every visit since then has been fascinating. His confrontation with the spirit of the place (or whatever) was awesome, in the literal sense.

        And now I know its purpose, everything buried beneath it. Bloody hell.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, I feel like Thomas's scene really hits the right emotional chords. And, of course, that's followed up by their trip to Demonreach, which is quite interesting.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Just got to Thomas's. Felt fitting. And it was bizarre how easily Thomas upended Harry's belief that he had sone the right thing, yet it all made perfect sense

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        So now that we're talking about it I've started reading Cold Days again. Love this book, particularly some of the reunion scenes.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Well, no. None of it is, really. They covered how literature is put out to cover bases and spread awareness, and Harry wondered about Disney, and they briefly mentioned adapting. Then they mentioned Halloween's function changing over the years. If days and stories can do that, why not the people in them?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Well, I don't know about the Easter Bunny, but if you know anything about the origins of Santa, then, after hearing what he said about how beings like him evolve over the centuries, you can tell that he's not exactly what he seems.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Bloody hell, now I'm expecting the Easter Bunny to show up

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Haha, I love the bit with Santa. Sarissa is all, "OMG, you're such a fanboy, Dresden!"

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Valid point, I guess. I just saw him turn up with Santa in Cold Days. Didn't see that coming. And he seemed pretty casual about the whole thing then. For that matter, so did Harry.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        You may be right. I guess I'm basing my idea off of the way he talks to Harry. He's like, I'd just as soon feed you and let you be on your way, and he's very good-natured about it when Harry catches him out on calling them guests. He never acts like he actually dislikes Harry. That doesn't mean he wouldn't kill him, of course, but it also doesn't give the impression that he's got a personal beef there.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        I dunno...after Harry got back, Lea gave him a hell of a reprimand for going there, explicitly citing the Erlking's grudge. She understands Fae nature to the nth degree, so if she was that worried about it, I'd say there's cause for concern

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        See, after Changes I feel like he's kind of over having a grudge against Harry. He seems to respect Harry as a fellow hunter, and, yeah, he might be interested in hunting Harry at some point in the future If he gets the opportunity but no more than he'd be looking forward to hunting any other interesting prey. It ink it may not even really be in his nature to hold on to a grudge for long, because all he really cares about is doing his thing.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Well the argument could be made he's rarely 'ready' to run into half the people he does. Honestly I'd say he wasn't really ready to run up against Nicodemus, the Skinwalker or the Red King, but he did. Still, valid point.

        I could see the Eebs surviving the extinction event, but survivng the Erlking is another matter entirely. That was another excellent scene in an excellent book. When he turned up my jaw hit the floor. It would take an act of god for them to get away from him. I await the day he'll be the primary antagonist of a book. It'll have to happen at some point. His grudge is going to boil.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Mwahaha, yes, spread the infection!!

        I agree about Ferrovax, I keep waiting for him to reappear, but with the way he handled Harry, it seems like his power level may be on parr with some of these old gods like the red court's lords of the outer night or whatever pretentious thing they called themselves. So Harry may not have been ready to run into him again yet.

        Speaking of the red court, a popular theory is that Esteban and Esmerelda survived their species being wiped out, since they were in the never never at the time. They're so fun and insane, I think I wouldn't mind seeing them again.

        Post edited 3/12/14 8:32AM

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Sweet. So far that thing about the dagger is all I know about it. That and Ferrovax isn't in it. I am eagerly awaiting that bastard's reappearance. I might have gone hunting for that particular detail, but apparently he won't turn up again until this supposed apocalyptic trilogy.

        I've got one of the guys at work into these books too. He borrowed Storm Front, finished it over the weekend. I gave him Fool Moon and Grave Peril today.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I forgot about the He Who Walks Behind bit. That was good, if only because Harry has referred to that encounter so many times and we never really knew what happened.

        And, yeah, Cold Days is the last novel out until Skin Game drops this May (there's a YouTube video out there of Jim reading the first 4 chapters of Skin Game at some con, and it sounds like it's going to be amazing). I think you'll like Cold Days. Some big questions answered.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        If you could send those stories, that would be great. Marcone hasn't been around much lately and that story in particular is the one I'm hankering for.

        I keep seeing these oblique references to Harry hanging out with Bigfoot and having cocoa with him, or whatever. I kept wondering what the hell all that was about. Really want that.

        I've got no problem with using a previous supporting villain as the primary villain for the story, and in the context, Corpsetaker was a pretty good fit. But her plot just ultimately wasn't that interesting. Regrouping and coming back to life. Big deal. It's been done. And admittedly, I knew it probably wouldn't happen this way but I did kind of hope Harry's return to life (we all knew it was coming) would be from consuming Corpsetaker much as she'd consumed all the spirits he brought.

        Agreed, seeing Murphy and Molly broken down so much was pretty fucking harsh. Granted, it all made sense within the context of the story, and I get why Harry had to drop in well after the fact, but it was a lot to take in all at once. Add that to the shadowy backdrop of the fomor thing, which again, I can't figure out, and there was so much going on it was hard to take in.

        Gonna start on Cold Days tomorrow. Then as I understand it, I'm up to speed, side stories notwithstanding, yes? I've had one detail spoiled to me, that being it somehow involves the knife Lea got from Bianca, but beyond that...well, I'll find out. Glad he's alive, though. It'll be easier to work out what the world is like. Luccio, Ebenezar, the Merlin and the rest. I'm keen to see that lot.

        I must have just interpreted the end of Turn Coat, then. Again, once I read the later books, I'm sure I'll see it immediately upon re-reading. Although they already covered why he was barely in Ghost Story; Harry would remember covering up his suicide from his brother, which would fuck him up.

        The one thing which Ghost Story got absolutely amazingly, though, was the flashback to his encounter with He Who Walks Behind. That was fucking insanity.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        There is a Marcone perspective story, but it was published just after Side Jobs. So it didn't make it in. It's called Even Hand, and I think I've got an electronic copy somewhere that I could send you if you like. Also not in Side Jobs is the newest short called Bombshells, which is from Molly's perspective and set between Ghost Story and Cold Days. I've got that too. Both of those shorts deal with the Fomor and explain a little more about them. Though they continue to be pretty mysterious. Also not in Side Jobs is a trilogy of short stories about Harry and Bigfoot. Those are pretty fun as well.

        Ghost Story is, hands down, my least favorite of the books. I thought the bad guy was weak (and lets admit it, straight-up recycled from a previous book). I also hated seeing what has happened to Murphy and Molly. Meeting Murphy's dad was interesting, and I loved pretty much everything from the moment he went into Molly's head and saw her whole Star Trek thing until the end. The reveal of who engineered his murder blew my fucking kind. I never saw it coming. Finding out what happened to his daughter and Mouse really got me. Everything between the beginning and the end of the book I didn't really enjoy, which was even worse after waiting so long since Changes came out. If Ghost Story hadn't been followed by Cold Days, which I fucking love, I might have gotten discouraged with the series. Cold Days is wall-to-wall badass, IMO.

        As for Thomas, there is a Thomas-perspective story in Side Jobs, but it's not about that. The end of Turn Coat did kind of seem like it was making him a bad guy, but in the end, it's more like he was a recovering addict that fell off the wagon. In Cold Days you'll see a bit more of how he's trying to balance the two parts of himself instead of going all one way or another and even get a good explanation for why he appeared so little in Ghost Story.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Changes is easily one of my favourites so far. Wall-to-wall action, great character moments, some fantastic gags (Mouse threatening Lea was goddamn amazing) and some nice little bits tying it together. I liked how it turns out Arianna's plot wasn't about Harry at all; he isn't the centre of the universe at all, so sometimes he's just caught up in it all. That said, two things about the book that will stick out forever in my mind: when Esteban meets Harry in his office building, screams in terror and runs like hell, and then...Martin's revelation. Holy god. The lengths the man could and did go to. Just...mind-boggling.

        I can only imagine how livid the fans must have been. It would have been like after Batman died in Final Crisis. Everyone would have railed against it. Hell, the only thing that stopped me from doing it was the fact that the next two books were sitting on my shelf.

        Speaking of...I finished Ghost Story about a minute ago. Personally I think it was one of the weaker books. There were some truly great moments in there - Butters and Daniel taking on Aristedes, Mort doing...just about anything - but on the whole I feel like I'm only glimpsing it. Primarily, because not only do we have the sideshow of Harry figuring out the rules of being dead, which were interesting but got wearying after a time, but also because there's this whole background of conflict with the fomor (it even seems kind of like there was that 20 year jump you mentioned, to a post-apocalyptic future, even though it was only a fraction of that time), and I still have no fucking idea who or what the fomor are. Are they Atlanteans? Are they mermen? That's the closest I could get. Everyone is freaking out about them when the main plot isn't moving, without giving us any details, and it's getting bloody distracting. I get the feeling it will be better on re-reading, after I have a better idea of the things that have happened in the intervening months, but for the moment it was a bit disjointed. Plus, it didn't help that most of the characters weren't in it anywhere near as much. We barely saw Mouse or Thomas.

        On the topic of Thomas...I dunno. He was the down note of Changes. Mainly because the ending of Turn Coat seemed to indicate he was going to become a lot more villainous than he actually wound up being in Changes and Ghost Story, but ultimately he just seemed...pretty well like he always did. Does that get cover in Side Jobs? The only story I've actually read in it was the Murphy story, which was cool but didn't answer any of my questions about the fomor. (Also, I know you mentioned a Marcone story, but it doesn't seem to be in my copy of Side Jobs)

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Really, all of Changes is just hitting you with one loss after the other. It's crazy, right from the first sentence where Susan is like, "They've taken our daughter." Then, on the other side, there are so many awesome moments. Mouse threatening Lea, Harry meeting Odin, the crystal from his mom was a new luttle toy that i absolutely loved, and, of course, Harry being all winter knight badass. I have a very love/hate thing going on with Changes.

        After Changes came out, there were some pissed off fans. People were asking Jim Butcher, "how could you leave it on such a cliffhanger?" And Jim was like, "he's dead, how is that a cliffhanger?" And all sorts of theories were going around, like maybe the series was gonna jump 20 years into the future and be about Maggie instead.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Yeah, I can see that. Especially since it came out of fucking nowhere. It was already a bittersweet ending, and then, BOOM.

        And all I can think of is the scene two books previous, where Thomas saves him from Deirdre off Demonreach Island, and during their banter makes the wry comment "Next time I'm leaving you in the water."

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Ah, got to the end of the book, did you? Now imagine getting to that bit and having to wait over a year for the next book.

    • CapDac

      4 years ago

      You said Side Jobs comes after...Changes, was it? Currently on Small Favour. Really digging Nicodemus

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Yeah, Mouse is just confounding. He's like the wisest character in the book when he's not licking people's faces.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, the loss of his protection from them a tough hit, especially with Lara practically licking her lips when she notices them together. I like the Gatekeeper a lot, especially a little later, but the moment on the Island where he and Harry talk things out is probably my favorite part of that book. Especially when Rashid realizes what Harry has done and is like, don't thank me, it might have been kinder to kill you.

        Mouse getting shot just made me want to kill Morgan too. I love Mouse. Still it almost makes up for it when you find out Mouse was pretending it was worse than it was to teach Molly a lesson. And, yeah, those are always funny when Harry comes home. Especially when he's like, "Consider who this is coming from, have you ever thought about talking to work out your problems?" And everyone is embarrassed.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Also, Harry constantly coming back to his apartment and finding Morgan and Molly at each other's throats, with only Mouse stopping shit from going down, was hilarious. At least up until Mouse got shot.

        Also, the Gatekeeper may yet be one of my favourite characters. For some reason, he reminds me of Elodin. I think it's the "odd one out on the senior council" thing.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        I liked how Harry's plan to catch him only suceeded because of a technicality Harry was not yet aware of. He got so bloody lucky. And yeah, the Black Council planned for a lot of eventualities and got away with it. Plus, with Peabody down, it's not like they can question him.

        Morgan went out like a boss. I was astonished. It had all the hallmarks of a former enemy-turned-friend dying saving the hero, but goddamn, after all we've seen Morgan do, it was just amazing. Especially since he had to drag his horribly wounded arse all that way, keeping pace with them, and then catch up.

        To be honest, the worst thing about Luccio is the fact that it means Harry is no longer protected from the White Court vampires by Susan's love, a fact which Lara is very much aware of, and the loss of that protection was all for nothing. Jesus.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yes, yes you did. I was impressed. Though what I really liked was Harry's plan for getting him. Very clever. Better still, though, was the plan that the bad guys were running. When I got to the end of that book i realized that if Harry was right at the end and the new senior council guy is a bad guy, then they had an incredible plan, like a Xanatos Gambit set up. Even when their plan to start a white council civil war failed miserably and their traitor was exposed, they still won.

        It was kind of sad to loose Morgan after everything, but the guy went out like a bamf. The thing with Luccio, though, was so fucked up. Harry cannot catch a break.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Just finished Turn Coat. FUCKING CALLED IT

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Really? I vastly enjoyed that one. Partly because that's where everything really picked up, but also because that was where, for the first time ever, Harry cut loose and we began to see what he was really capable of. He fucking annihilated a legion all coming at him.

        Also I liked Michael and that dragon talking shit at each other.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Grave Peril is a weird book. Not one of my favorites. I mean, there's some great moments, but overall I didn't like it that much, certainly not once I'd read Summer Knight, which was so great. Yet, Grave Peril is really where everything kind of starts. All these big things in the series have roots in the party. We first meet Thomas there. The vampire war starts there. Cowl and Kumori are hanging out, passing out party favors like the dagger that Lea walks out with. Even Susan sort of starts her real journey there. Not a great standalone book, IMO, but a really important one overall.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        I dread what I'll find when he gets out of Edinburgh

        Someone mentioned it to me when I was halfway through Fool Moon, so I've been paying attention throughout. It's fun trying to see how many different meanings I can extrapolate from it all.

        Been tearing my room apart looking for my copies of Fool Moon and Grave Peril and I can't find them. Damn it!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I love Molly in Turn Coat. She's finally getting her head on straight, and here's Morgan to put that to the test, and it's like Harry can't leave the room for five minutes without trouble starting.

        You know, it's funny. I never noticed the pattern in the titles, that they're all two words with the same number of letters in each word, until Changes. It really is kind of jarring, lets you know, this book is gonna be different.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Yeah, I get the feeling this book-long confrontation with Morgan is one that Butcher was itching to write for a long time, but wanted to hold it off A) so the traitor has enough time to do shit before getting unmasked and B) so Morgan could appear for several books and develop the relationship. Nothing about it has felt forced; it's all purely in-character but so damned entertaining. He and Molly in the shed together is a powderkeg

        I can already tell Changes is gonna be fucked up. Twelfth book in the series and suddenly the two-word title pattern is dropped? Serious shit has gotta go down

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I like Turn Coat largely because Harry and Morgan really dislike each other so much, yet Harry being the kind of guy he is can't help but help. They hang a lampshade on it in like the first page when Morgan shows up and Harry is like, "You've got to be kidding me!" As I'm sure you've already picked up on half the book is written kind of like a White Council political thriller, which is an interesting approach.

        You'll have to let me know what you think when you get to the end of this one and after you read the first sentence of Changes. Jim Butcher really knows how to ramp things up. One page into Turn Coat and it's already like, oh, man, this is bad. Then one sentence into Changes and you can already see what a total mind fuck you're in for.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Yeah, for the attempted poker face, Nick lets his guard down a few times in the book. And torturing Ivy was just fucked up.

        I wouldn't expect you to. But it's gotta be Peabody. He's been hanging around since Summer Knight, doing very little beyond being mentioned in passing in, what, four of the books or so, and this is a series where if you rate a mention in two books at least, you have a huge part to play. And he's clearly the least suspected person, since he's just a bloody bookkeeper, but who better to slip information to the enemy than the one controlling it? And when he finally got a speaking part like a chapter ago from where I'm at, he gets McCoy to sign a few papers and then walks off, and Harry is derogatory to him as just a paper-pusher, and McCoy speaks for his usefulness during the war, and my alarm bell just started blaring. He's the patted-on-the-head, good-job, thanks-for-trying, thanks-for-doing-this-boring-shit-while-the-big-boys-take-off-heads-and-eviscerate-monsters guy, and regardless of whether those characters are content with that position or not, they ALWAYS wind up antagonists.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        The blasting rod thing is interesting because when you reread it (and I've read them all several times cause I'm like that), there's hints all throughout, the most obvious being just before Michael asks about it and Harry is like, "Oh good, you got my staff. These are a huge pain to replace. Much harder than ... what was I saying?"

        Other great moments include Nick meetin Mouse (Mouse is seriously one of my favorite characters, awesome dog writing), and I love Ivy as well, them sort of torturing her really got to me.

        I, of course, will not confirm or deny, but who do you think the traitor is at that point?

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Bugger all. Still got two books before I'mma sit down with the short stories. Oh well. Guess Michael will have to wait

        Black Council, yeah. That conspiracy is building, but at this point the only person we know for sure is a member and still definitely alive is Cowl. Although, I'm only a hundred pages into Turn Coat, and I'm all but certain I know who the White Council traitor is. So there's that. I do like how Nicodemus is unconnected to it all. His reaction when Harry mentioned the Hellfire at Arctis Tor was bloody terrifying. It's better knowing not every antagonist is all lined up perfectly. Another reason I like Marcone, I guess.

        I didn't pick the blasting rod thing at all. Once I was aware of it, I knew who was behind it, but up until Michael asked the question I didn't notice a goddamned thing. Flipping back, it's true, he never once brings it up, or even the thought of using his own fire, so it was relly well-played.

        The thing that made me laugh about the mouthwash comment was the fact that it seemed familiar; I flipped back through Storm Front, and Harry said the same thing after Morgan gave him mouth-to-mouth. I enjoyed wondering if knowing that would have pissed off Lara more or less, being compared to that grumpy bastard. But yeah, Lara's definitely one of the more dangerous villains. She's less charismatic than a lot of the others, but then I guess that's exactly the point; if she was on the same level as Nick or Bianca or even her father, her cover would collapse within minutes

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, Eldest Gruff was great. I love Harry hearing him just wreck Magog and then waiting for him, continually aiming higher and higher, anticipating where his head will be and being like, man, how far does this guy have to walk?! The whole thing on the island is intense and great, I especially like when he punches Nick in the throat, strangles him, and dumps him in the lake. Michael being horribly injured, not so much. BTW, you don't really hear much about Michael's condition in the books anytime soon, which drove me nuts at first, but once again there's a short story kind of dedicated to that.

        I loved the fight in the aquarium, even though Harry loses his cool and screws the whole thing up, and they're really building into the conspiracy stuff, with even Nicodemus being on the outside looking in (if you can believe anything he says, that is).

        Did you pick up on Harry's blasting rod being missing early in the book? I kept wondering about it, but the truth of it never occured to me before they reveal his head had been messed with.

        The fight in the Deeps in White Night is great, just wall to wall action, but what I really love is the stuff with Lara just before and after the fight. First finding out that Carlos is a virgin and Harry making fun of him constantly, then after we learn that Lara was secretly engineering the whole thing (except the super ghoul fight). I think she's an awesome bad guy, and then, of course Harry finally pushing her over the edge by asking for mouth wash.

        Post edited 3/05/14 5:19AM

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        I did wonder about that Billy and Georgia wedding reference. But then I got so swept up in that story I kind of forgot about it. OK, cool.

        Nicodemus is probably my favourite of the villains thus far, excepting Marcone. He's way more dangerous and horrific than a lot of the others, and it helps that he was the first (I think) primary antagonist to survive the first book he appeared in.

        Proven Guilty was bloody awesome. The movie monster stuff was great, but my favourite thing about it was how utterly astonishing it was to see Charity sack up and lead the charge into Arctis Tor, yet not at all out of character. I was on the edge of my seat for that whole thing, and it was a great way of developing that familial side of things. Really, anything to do with Michael's family is enjoyable. I don't think I haven't enjoyed a scene yet of them. Even the little things, like the girl calling Harry 'Bill', are just fantastic. White Night I didn't enjoy as much, but I still liked. Again, the presence of Cowl, who I still can't quite put my finger on, was a bit of a damper, and the minute Harry spied on the two unknown figures, I called Madrigal immediately. Something tipped me off within an instant and so I wasn't as surprised when he showed back up. And I felt kind of shortchanged when the Skavis figure didn't get much screentime as himself. That said, the New Mexico flashback was one of the most mind-blowing moments of the series, and the entire fight in the Raith Deeps didn't let up for a minute. I actually laughed with glee when Thomas and Hendricks were fighting back-to-back against the ghouls.

        Finished Small Favour last night. It's easily one of my favourites of the series; again, Nicodemus as a villain was awesome, and I liked the Thorned Denarian as well. It kept a steady pace, and the bit where Harry confronts the Eldest Gruff after it slaughters Magog, and they have a good laugh before getting down to business and Harry wins with a fucking DONUT, that whole scene had me in hysterics. I couldn't believe it.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Heh, Nicodemus IS a pretty awesome bad guy.

        Side Jobs was published after Changes, and the final short story in the book takes place right after the end of Changes, so if you want to read them all straight through, then that would be a good time to do it. The other short stories, though, are spaces throughout the previous books. You've already seen some oblique references to some of them. Like back in Proven Guilty when Harry wants information from Maeve, he talks about how she tried to screw up Billy and Georgia's wedding, which is one of the short stories in Side Jobs, and Gard says something to Harry in Small Favor like, "We worked well together at the beer festival." That's another of the stories. So they do fit into continuity earlier than Changes, but it's not like you're missing any huge story points. You can kind of read a lot of them whenever really. Just don't, under any circumstances read the final story in Side Jobs (it's called Aftermath) before reading Changes. Huuuuge spoilers.

        Anyway, what did you think of Proven Guilty and White Night? They're two of my favorites. I love the movie monster stuff and Molly's whole story in PG. I really just love Molly and was happy to see her getting a bigger role in the books. And I love White Night because I like Elaine a lot (even if I don't quite trust her), and I like the mystery and a lot of the action in that book, especially Harry's flashback to what happened in New Mexico, because that was seriously fucked up.

        Post edited 3/04/14 8:34AM

    • CapDac

      4 years ago

      Currently up to Proven Guilty. Quite enjoying this series, very much so. Although the White Council largely comes across as Billy once described the Guardians of the Universe on Retcast, with Dresden filling the Hal Jordan role: "OK, so last time Harry Dresden was right. And the time before that. And before that. But THIS TIME, we are RIGHT and Harry Dresden must go down!"

      That said, love the characters. Marcone, Murphy, Morgan (alliteration, har), Thomas, even Butters

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Pretty much. It went from "Don't fuck with McCoy's buddies" to "Holy shit stay the fuck away from this guy"

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah. It's like, oh, in hindsight that makes complete sense. Though I didn't think that much about it at the time. It was just like, haha, suck it, Ortega.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        For some reason I felt oddly prepared for the Thomas relevation. Dunno why, but when that bomb was dropped, I was more thinking "Well there you go." But then the revelation of what McCoy really was sent me into "HOLY. SHIT."

        Which by rights should have been the other way round, considering that a mere one book previous, McCoy dropped a fucking satellite on Ortega.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, when you find out about him in, what, book 6? It's kind of a shocker. Of course, you've also just learned that Thomas is Harry's brother and Harry has gotten his hand burned to a crisp. So it's kind of like "WTF" overload at that point.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        Not sure I'd regard Evil Bob as a true villain, but you are right, that was a terrifying part of the book. Way back in the third book when Bianca had Bob in her possession I wondered what would happen if a villain got control of Bob. Now...well, I guess I know.

        Butcher has a talent for letting you re-evaluate characters like that. McCoy being the most gratuitous example.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I agree that there were too many villains to really focus much on one. Grevane was kind of interesting, and, yeah, the snakeboy torture and then death scene was pretty cool. Corpsetaker I really didn't care much for, though the scene where she's trying to break into Harry's mind and he's working to keep her out is totally badass, and then Harry just executes her in Luccio's body and drives Morgan insane. I really just love so much about that book.

        If we're talking about which bad guy was most compelling, though, I'd have to say Evil Bob. The idea that that personality has been inside Bob somewhere this whole time. It really makes you reevaluate a character that you thought you knew all about.

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        ...that does make sense, I guess. Huh. Hadn't considered that.

        It just meant that, in terms of getting to know the characters, the most compelling villain was Cassius. And it wasn't until towards the end that it turned out he was even in it. (That was my favourite scene in the book though)

        Oh yeah, I loved the stuff about the Council and the war. Did not see that coming. Loved every second. Luccio was awesome.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        The Mavra thing is interesting in that book. I kind of think she wanted to stay hidden from all those necromancers because black court vampires ARE dead bodies. Probably best to stay away from people who can manipulate the dead. Might also be the reason she wanted the Word of Kemmler in the first place, to keep anyone who could use the information against her kind from getting it instead.

        Also, Harry becoming a warden and the war with the vampires taking a seriously dark turn for the wizards were cool little additions.


        EDIT: And, yes, Summer Knight was totally my favorite until 7, 8, and 9 came along. Great book.

        Post edited 2/19/14 4:32PM

      • CapDac

        4 years ago

        I was wondering about Mouse, and also about Mister. I get the feeling there's a lot more to both of them than meets the eye. Harry already started to get that thought about Mouse, but something keeps nagging me about Mister and his size and behaviour and backstory, that there may be something there. On the flipside, if there was something different, surely Bob would have noticed during one of his possessions.

        Dead Beat was good and I can see why a lot of people dig it, but for some reason I came away a bit unsatisfied. I think it's largely to do with the fact that Cowl and Kumori remained masked for it, since they were built up as faces that should be recognised, and there was no unmasking. I can only assume that they'll turn up again, dinosaur and backlashed incantation notwithstanding, but at the time I thought they'd both kicked it without that reveal. And, frankly, with villain duties spread between those two, Corpsetaker, Grevane, Mavra, Lasciel and Cassius, it seemed like there was too much going on to keep track of. Especially when Mavra pretty much disappeared for most of the book and all those thoughts of "if she sees me with such and such, she'll release the evidence on Murphy" amounting to nothing. That side of things seemed haphazard.

        Don't get me wrong, I still liked the book, but at this stage Summer Knight and Death Masks are my favourites.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Yeah, the white council are mostly just a bunch of assholes, but, actually, by the end of Proven Guilty it starts seeming like maybe there's another reason for that.

        Also, you're right in my favorite section of the books. 7, 8, and 9 are probably my favorites, well, and 14 I guess. I mean, in Dead Beat (7), Harry is riding a fucking zombie t-rex. Can't beat that. I love a lot of the characters, but now that you've got Mouse in the mix, I think he quickly turns into the most awesome.

    • Audrey

      4 years ago

      Brutally-Honest-Disney-Valentines-Jack-S
      You are one kick-ass forum mod. I appreciate all the work you do to keep the site going smoothly. You're awesome, and I look forward to Guardian-ing with you this year!
      If you'd like to pass along the love, check this out! smiley12.gif

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Excellent, you didn't call him your favorite forum mod. At least not publicly.

    • craZboy87 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Retired Guardian Hat

      4 years ago

      I feel like we just did the Eiffel Tower of jokes in the Guardian introductions thread.

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      4 years ago

      It's February, so love is in the air. And I wanted to say you're my favorite moderator on the site, tied with ragingterror (and myself). We've shared some good laughs in minecraft. I was so close to winning. It's not your fault she's a dirty cheater. So I thank you! And thanks for helping out with mod questions. And for stepping off your pedestal for a few minutes to talk to me and Edwin at RTX. And I think it's hilarious that you're listed in the RvB credits as Data Laughing, when we all know your real name is USURPER.

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        That's precisely why Edwin. I like to stalk a few specific things very well rather than massive amounts of things poorly. You have to take pride in your work, man.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Edwin, you were a cute little kid. I'm glad we are fakebook friends.

      • edwin

        4 years ago

        I never upload anything though. Why look through my images?

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        Yeah. I pretty much live in data's comments page. Also @Edwin's images. I float between the two. They're always open in my browser.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Some people just like to hang out in my profile. No shame in it. I'm a fascinating fellow.l

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Pretty creepy, cheater.

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        AND NEVER YOU MIND HOW I GOT HERE, YOU GOSSIPING HARLOTS.

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        I AM NOT A DIRTY CHEATER.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Tis*

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Tia true. You're welcome!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        You know what? That wouldn't look half bad in the credits either. Also, thanks!

    • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

      4 years ago

      Untitled5_zps4527539d.png

      So.... It appears you're not a mod here. These site glitches are getting worse.

    • capnbirdman Likes Stars

      4 years ago

      I'm so glad No Backspace is enjoying such lively posting and tagging of me. Wondrous. smiley3.gif

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        That would involve searching for new forums to use.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Jack pointed out that we can do the same thing to him in the 18 & Up forum if we so please.

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        OH MY GOD, SOMEBODY JUST GIVE ME NINE LEVELS OF KARMA. YOU'RE ALL SO MEAN.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Sorry, but you were just the perfect example for a point I was trying to make. Also I knew it would be funny.

    • RainbowStorm

      4 years ago

      It may say discussion in the title, but there is no discussion in that thread... I mean honestly

    • RainbowStorm

      4 years ago

      I can't seem to post in my thread so I will reply here, I wanted to make a discussion thread. I did not want to join a forum of pic and gif spammers

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Sorry, but it is the image and discussion thread, and the forum rules are only one thread to a show.

    • capnbirdman Likes Stars

      4 years ago

      Also, I'm still burning inside with fury that even though I played your map in order to help you with your gender equality statistics you want to be friends with Edwin more than you do me.

      Also also, is @cloudstrifeX the one who ruined Shopping List? (I blame all of my dying on him...partially because I can't really remember what happened and that seems easiest.)

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        Victory.

      • capnbirdman Likes Stars

        4 years ago

        You accepted his friend request 18 years ago but never mine, traitor.

        Yeah...Zatch was like...super murdery that game. It's weird. He goes on murder tangents. Probably in real life too. smiley3.gif Now I've realized I can't go to RTX.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I do?

        And, yes, that's my brother. He will probably be ok with you blaming him. Though I blame Zack for my shopping list deaths.

    • capnbirdman Likes Stars

      4 years ago

      What are the chances you got a screen capture of my sweet victory?!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Oh, that would have been a good idea, wouldn't it? Must remember that for the future. Victory screen caps. Though you erected 3 pieces and then they ran over to murder you. So there wasn't much time for that.

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      4 years ago

      9PM sunday for MC? CST time.

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        Yeah. I was going to use them to blow up the zombie pigman, and then you two were there, and one of you opened the door.... It would have worked, if it weren't for you meddling kids.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Lame. I tried stepping on so many at the end to stop jen but they were all fakes. sadface. sadfake.

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        There were traps? Oh yeah, the TNT. I came in the first time, and there was already blown up TNT. The on;y one which blew up in the game. After that I dug the rest up and died, so no wonder there weren't any in there.

        Yeah, you need too.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        The first room sucked because the traps weren't even real most of the time. Lame!

        I think I am going to work on screaming more manly.

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        Well, it would have made the first rooms faster probably. Or slower depending on how much we killed each other. Yeah, it was a *nice* surprise, for Jen that is.

        Yeah... Data, you seriously need better internet. But honestly, as rich as my parents are, the fact that they don't want to get good internet kills me. I can't play these without lag, can't join the TFT podcast, watch live streams, etc...

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        I don't think joining later or not really mattered. I had no idea the beds being ruined would let her win, I just thought it would be a nice surprise. Turns out I died first anyways.

        I'm sad that someone's internet made the whole night an exercise in frustration for me, but I still had a ton of fun despite that.

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        We I did all the grunt work and killed everything and died a lot. I also tried to save it. I blame team Ack's loss on Zack entirely.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        She came in halfway through and still won. You guys should be embarrassed,

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        GODDAMNIT @CAPNBIRDMAN!!! HOW COULD YOU LET HER WIN ZACK!!! YOU SCREWED US OVER BY MESSING THE BEDS UP!!!

        That was definitely a lot of fun though.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        y

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        We still doing this?

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        k

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I have to work at 5 am Monday. So I couldn't stay long if we started 9 pm Sunday.

    • Thorenir

      4 years ago

      Happy Thanksgiving!

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      4 years ago

      minecraft anytime this weekend?

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        Oooh la la. Well I have no plans tomorrow so I'm excited to see it! I wasn't on tonight...sorry if you were. :X

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        I've actually got a new minecraft map I've been working on. Play testing it at the moment. So y'all might want to give it a try.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        jeni and i and edwin might play tonight. she said 8pm CST but idk when my festivities will be over. shadowhound and edwin and jeni and i are all trying for sunday too.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        4 years ago

        Sure?

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      5 years ago

      are you free tomorrow (Monday) night around 7:30 central for Minecraft with capybaragirl and @Edwin and @Shadow_Hound and myself? She made a Dig Down map to play on.

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        4 years ago

        -1 Lame. Okay then. I've got no homework tonight so I should be good to go.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        4 years ago

        also she was too busy to make a Dig Down map. (underestimated how long it would take to actually make is more like it--I don't blame her) so we'll be doing Shopping List instead since the setup is easy peasy.

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        5 years ago

        I can do that.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        5 years ago

        @capnbirdman said 7:30pm CST

      • Gorczy The Real Slim Shady

        5 years ago

        My power's been out all day, but I've gotten my xbox and tv hooked up to the generator so I can play. What time are we playing tomorrow?

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        Sure

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      5 years ago

      my mom got me Name of the Wind (first book) for my birthday. woohoo!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        Lol, yeah, I remember reading that for the first time after the whole arrow to the knee meme started, and I was like, hold on, no way. It does make one wonder.

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        5 years ago

        "Took an arrow to the knee" is from that book and was from 2007 so Skyrim references to IT? AWESOME TO THE MAX CONCURRED!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        Awesome. Awesome to the max.

    • Nixorbo

      5 years ago

      Did you get your Dresden Codak yet?

      • Nixorbo

        5 years ago

        I'm in it for the Caveman Science Fiction Theater.

        ME AM GONE TOO FAR

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        Yeah, Bibliomancer, the $45 one, that's the one of mine that's arrived. I pledged for Dragonslayer as well, and I haven't gotten an email about that one yet. Though some people have been saying their stuff arrived without them ever receiving emails. Think you'll be satisfied when you get it, though. It's a beautiful book, even if it's ridiculously large.

        Post edited 9/28/13 10:18PM

      • Nixorbo

        5 years ago

        I haven't even gotten an email yet, Bibliomancer level.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        Got my silver copy. No gold and other goodies yet. The book is ginormous.

    • edwin

      5 years ago

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY OLD MAN!

    • monopoly_j

      5 years ago

      Happy Birthday!

    • Erkan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Take It Easy.... bitches

      5 years ago

      For next RTX... didn't see you this time round.

    • DiMono FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold It's Back Baby!

      5 years ago

      What the hell were you doing not being my friend on here? I call shenanigans on you, Sir. Shenanigans!

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        We weren't already friends on here? How odd. I accept your shenanigans call. Excuse me now while I engage in some tomfoolery.

    • Nicolas FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      5 years ago

      May I ask about the seeming obsession with Lee Harvey Oswald?

      • Nicolas FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

        5 years ago

        Oh, for a second there I thought you supported him.


        ...Not saying you shouldn't. But I'm not saying you should, either.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        Long story. Basically I needed an avatar once and a picture of LHO was the only thing I had available to use, and then people started knowing me by that avatar. So I kept it.

    • BigNiceJohn

      5 years ago

      Hey man, thanks for your comment asking for clarification. The outrage came from firing people and posting it it on Facebook, blindsiding two of the most respected members of the community here in Toronto instead of giving them a chance to either defend themselves, or simply resign quietly.

      I've been to every event in this city, as a host of 6 RvBTO's, attended twice, and helped the RTO guys a little bit, to give them a shot at making something great.

      I cannot stand by people being poorly by others in the community, and I shudder at the thought of an event here turning into another con.

      There's a lot more behind the scenes that I disagree with, and lead other members of RTO to resign, but I won't get into much more, because I don't want to get into shaming people on the internet, which is what I feel RTO has done.

      • BigNiceJohn

        5 years ago

        Yeah, it's unpleasant business to be sure, but it's something that will hopefully be dead and buried soon.

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        Ah, ok. I think I understand a bit better now. Thanks for that!

    • cloudstrifeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      5 years ago

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjBHFb0fZM

      Didn't know if you had seen this

    • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

      5 years ago

      You talked about the TFT podcast and said that recording individual audio files and editing them together was weird. I agreed with that (it's 2013, for crying out loud), but I forgot what your alternative recommendation was. Rather than looking back on that thread a hundred million pages ago, I'm just going to ask you what you said and hope you remember. Do you remember? What was it?

      • Zack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zatch

        5 years ago

        kk

      • datalaughing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always Right

        5 years ago

        There are several programs that will record everyone on a Skype call. You can probably just Google Skype recording or something. The best ones you probably have to pay a bit for, like I've got some friends who use Pamela to record stuff, and it works great, but I know there are free ones too.

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