Do You Know How Toilets Work? - Last Call #86

Off Topic: Do You Know How Toilets Work? - Last Call #86

The AH Crew sit down to talk about going to the bathroom, Jeremy’s writing, and more on this week's Last Call!

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  • PuckLizardRN FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    If you have a bladder or urethral obstruction, you can have over a liter of urine in the bladder. Note to humans: if you cannot pee for over a day, it is not normal. Please go the the ER. Urosepsis is not pretty. 

  • TeaJay FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I love annual shotgun certification class. So much fun.

  • Kurtbastianjust FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Who immediately went in search of Jeremy's myspace page?


  • SkylerHebert

    3 weeks ago

    I can answer this question. As someone who needs to drain someone's urine bag (they have a foley) it only takes two liters of urine to get the toilet to flush, but it has to enter the bowl all at once, such as with a bucket. It requires volume AND velocity.

  • cooperboss FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    I think the confusing bit is the word Flush. You couldn't flush the toilet with piss as flushing the toilet is the act of pulling the chain (or pressing the flush) and water falling from the cistern and pushing the water in the bowl out of the pipe. You could potentially piss enough to start the effect but i wouldn't not displace all the water/piss, you could easily measure this by creating a mark in the bowl of where the water sits and then piss to see if it rises or stays the same.  Just as a note, Typically the water in the cistern is designed to be the correct amount to completely replace the water in the bowl.

  • MarksNutt FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    On the subject of shitting, I take a shit about 2 times a week or once every 3 days.


  • PinkPlum FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Whale Chief

    3 weeks ago

    lindsay's a genius omg THATS HOW YOU STOP?

  • Icky427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Icky

    3 weeks ago

    i can already hear it now. but plz go easy on lindsay saying "assault rifle". if you know, then you know what she meant, let it go.

  • BenKT88 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Do American schools not cover Archimedes and a fluid filling the bottom of a container etc etc?

  • Phtephosaur FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    The gun thing is so foreign (australian here), the thought of even holding a gun makes me uncomfortable. I guess it's partly cultural, our current gun laws have been in place since I was 1, I have never (and if things continue as is, will never) feel the need to own a gun for any purpose including self defense. It makes me really damn sad that the US is now in a situation where some people feel the need to own a gun for this purpose.

    • Icky427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Icky

      3 weeks ago

      the difference is you guys dont have a bordering country that smuggles in illegal stuff regardless of what laws are in place. outlawing guns here wouldnt have the same outcome as doing it there.

    • mrcheesewheel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold mrcheesewheel

      3 weeks ago

      It's not all of USA that loves guns or feels the need to own one for self defense.  I'm not a gun guy but I have gone hunting, it some what depends where you grow up. A lot of the Midwest (I'm from Wisconsin) hunts it's of part the culture. As far as the guns for self defense I find most of the time its really just a person who likes guns using self defense as an explanation to why they have them. I think we are long over due for an overhaul on gun laws but i don't think we will ever go as far as England or Australia. I don't think I'll ever own a gun or feel the need to own one.

  • Gaver69 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

  • OniEnnui FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Jack I've been meaning to mention this. You don't need to drink 8 glasses of water a day. That's just a common thing people say. Generally feeling thirsty is your body telling you when you need water. Here's a Mayo Clinic article that goes into the details if you happen to see this. http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/water/art-20044256?pg=1

  • janas FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    I have a pretty big bladder and I kinda wanna try the flushing with pee only thing but I also don't wanna be known as the fan that did that...

  • Inpheksion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Just go find a toilet and pour water from a jug into it until it flushes... You can just fill a jug from the sink, and if that is too much prep, a gallon jug of water is like $0.80 at WalMart

  • srvvlhm FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold David Kane

    3 weeks ago

    It takes a gallon to make it flush.

  • KingR2088 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    At least Michael is ready for a shotgun wedding if necessary.  

  • The_Songbird FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Michael is starting to get the gun fever. Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen. [Maniacal Laughter] 

  • GrimmSabretooth

    3 weeks ago

    I'd like to answer Jack's question about being able to pee a toilet into flushing, which I have done. And now, to expand upon how flushing works. Flushing works by filling to a certain level, and then it can do one of 2 things. You can pull the lever or push the button or whatever, and pressurized water will go through holes in the top covered by the lip of the toilet bowl, and a larger hole in the very narrow area at the bottom. The bottom hole uses water to push the water currently being drained out of the bowl into the pipeline to the sewer, while the water coming from the top both pushes down and replaces the water/ waste you want to flush. People who are saying that it flushes overtime are talking about a problem where that valve doesn't work properly, so water is constantly flowing, and although this is much like flushing, it's  very wasteful, and happens on a much smaller scale.

  • schurgy16 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    A shotgun? It's a little to early to be protecting your daughter from boys.

  • CHickel2006 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    For Michael (eal?) and Jeremy - The answer you are looking for for your 'stop peeing midstream/complete shut down' are the pelvic floor muscles. 

    These are the same muscles that Lindsey used during labor to get Iris out.

    These muscles can also be engaged during sex to increase pleasure for the participating parties.

    • MikeSorgen FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      You spelled his name right, A before E.

    • CHickel2006 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Awesome. Thank you MikeSorgen!

  • FuseUnison FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    I may regret this later, but I'd like to hold a kind of informal survey.  

    There seems to be two kinds of people...those who can stop urinating after they've started, and those who can't(both male and female).  

    Which is more common?  I can start and stop at will, so which category are you?  =)

    • dynomike15 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I can stop and start at will as well but God help you if you do while you have an erection lol

  • KratosRager FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    I can finally post comments

  • Darkness___0 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Apparently. new toilets use up to 1.6 gallons per flush, or a little over 6 liters. Say, instead of between 400 and 620 mL, the average person urinated a nice round 500 mL, then it would, theoretically, take ~12 people pissing into a bowl at once to flush it.


    Unless I am mistaken.

  • LLLLetsShadles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    to sorta answer jacks question, sometimes if you are in a quiet bathroom you can hear water going overt the Weir and pouring out, so i do not think a human can due to the volume and amount of time a toilet normally works for.

  • eatmarth FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    isn't stopping pee a kegels thing like male or female?

    • zgillet FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Yes.

  • AngrySarcasm FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Jack you make me laugh when you're like this

  • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

    3 weeks ago

    fun fact geocities is all archived, they saved the whole shebang. 

  • AdrieOut FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Have they never poured dirty mop water into a toilet? Mine flushes itself all the time

    • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

      3 weeks ago

      that was my thought.

  • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Michael, from what you said, I am guessing you plan to use the shotgun for self defense. Don’t. I do not know what your house is made of, where you plan to shoot (or you even have a plan), or what shotgun you have (caliber or length of the barrel), but overpenetration is an issue. Your neighbors might not appreciate getting shot, or having their house screwed up, because you did not take the time to research your ammo, or position yourself correctly. From your previous statements I assume you know virtually nothing about firearms, and will not be able to pick the correct ammo without help (which you do not seem to have). 


    Michael, if you owned a firearm to train yourself to eventually use it in self defense, that would be fair. Right now, unless you know more than what you are showing on these podcasts, you are a danger to yourself and others.


    Let us talk about ammo. Ammo tends to vary slightly in length. Firearms have what is known as headspace. Headspace is the smooth part of the barrel before the rifling begins. Cartridges can only go into the barrel as far as the headspace extends. Headspace can also vary. Cheap ammo, and firearms, tend to have greater variances. This is important because it can cause major malfunctions. Either the firearm does not fire at all, you get a dry click, the case gets stuck, or you get a case rupture. The last one might break your firearm or injure you. When you pick a firearm for self defense, you need to fire between 500-1000 rounds before you decide on that firearm. This is both to make sure the firearms works, and break it in. After that, you choose your ammo. For self defense, you need to use a defensive round, from a high quality ammo manufacturer. You need to fire 250-500 rounds. No malfunctions, and you are good to go.


    The paragraph above is a primer of one aspect of picking your tools. This does not get into things like sound. Car stereos tend to max out at 140-150 decibels. A 12 gauge shotgun maxes out at 160 decibels. Try flicking the volume of your stereo to max. Depending on the acoustics of your house, you could concuss yourself. Some people get mild concussions from shooting guns normally, with hearing protection. If you knock yourself unconscious, and only winged the person, what is going to happen?


    Michael, if you are not going to take the time to get yourself trained, you should not own a gun for self defense. Scratch that, you should not own a gun at all. If you are legitimately worried about people breaking in, get a security company, set up glass break detectors, set up visible (but well placed) security cameras, set up motion lights, put a second car in your driveway, buy a dog, and set up a light, and radio to come on at night. If you are unwilling to pay for any of those things, then buy fake ones on Amazon. Most of the time, a sign is as good as a dog. A thief is not going to jump your fence to check if you have a dog. The only way a thief is going to bother breaking into a house that looks that secure is if they are determined to break into your particular house. At that point, you do not have the training to deal with someone who is that determined.

    • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

      3 weeks ago

      listening to Michel and his need of making sure his home is safe,
      missuses of guns and mismanagement just does not seem like something he
      would do. He also isn't stupid lol the person you get drunk on camera most likely isn't the person handling a gun. I mean in Canadian, so i don't understand guns for protection against people in your home (mostly because its illegal to shoot someone even if they are breaking into your home)

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @luckymina That absence of training is itself, mismanagement. Michael admitted to only shooting a few times. If we estimate that to be several hundred rounds, then he might have fired enough to break in one firearm. He likely shot several firearms. From his own statements, he does not appear to have any training or experience worthy of note.


      In the end, it is not about whether I trust him. I am just some guy on the internet. Does he even trust himself? When the chips are down, and he is facing down an attacker, will he be able to effectively end the threat, will he shoot wildly, or will he hesitate, wondering if he will squeeze the trigger, and only hear a dry click. 


      As a side note, no, it is not illegal to shoot someone in Canada. The definitions might be different, but there is no country on the planet that makes self defense illegal.

    • Jbteegarden FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      To sum up what you said, consider your options and learn about firearms. I would disagree with your opinion about shotguns for home defense, as a police officer the best home defense are shotguns. The loading of a shell is all the deterrent you will need most of the time, or as Michael puts it "schklikt, kilikt". 

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @Jbteegarden Shotguns can be as good a defensive firearm as any, if you are well trained, use the right ammo, have hearing protection, and position yourself correctly. However, they are not magical shields. They are mechanical devices that require training to use them effectively. That was (part of) my point.


      However, I must disagree with the idea that you should load your firearm while someone is attacking you. Getting robbed is a statistical anomaly. Michael likely lives in a safe neighborhood. That lowers the probability even more. Him being there to stop the robbery is even more unlikely. Him being able to get the gun, to stop the robbery, is even more unlikely. At that point, he has already hit the shit jackpot, and you want to add in mechanical failure, and manipulating a mechanical device to his thoughts?


      Personally, I would rather be analyzing where my shot is going to go after it exits my target, rather than hoping that the round does not misfeed. If you plan to use a firearm in self defense, you need to make a plan. That way, you can decrease your failure points. Besides, the barrel of a shotgun should give them a rough idea of what they are facing.

    • onebudd FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Señor

      3 weeks ago

      I don't get why you've got so many negatives on your comment considering it's only meant to be helpful, but whatever. Let me preface this with an agreement on all of your points.


      He deserves more credit, I think. He's not dumb nor irresponsible. He's just new, presumably, to firearms. Give him some time to become more acquainted with them and the laws surrounding and hopefully take some defensive courses with ample time behind a trigger. Judging his knowledge from the podcasts, around people that definitely have zero understanding or care of them, isn't quite fair in my opinion. Maybe I'm just wrong in doing so, but when I'm talking about this stuff among people that don't care or know much on the subject, I don't go into detail unless asked. That said I do try to educate when presented the opportunity.


      I personally don't necessarily consider a shotgun to be a great defensive tool anyway. Especially a pump action. He'd be better off sticking with his handgun and good hollow points that he talked about before, though that's just me.

    • MilesTheGreat FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Zinc Saucier

      3 weeks ago

      i think its more of a sport thing...

    • wDsKillerBob FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      The only thing I will say is that he joked that he knows the damage a shotgun can do and someone really wouldn't want to break in if they knew he had one. Why do you assume that he is not trained? He states that he has gone shooting "a bunch of times" with Lindsay's family (not 'only a few times'), who are avid gun owners according to things they've said in the past, the only once or twice was shooting in a range. They have also already owned a gun (for protection) for a few years. Also he is talking about not having ammo for a gun that someone GIFTED to him, not a gun that he picked out and just had no idea what to use with it or what would be the best ammo for it. I just personally feel as though you are making a lot of assumptions on little information that doesn't immediately lead to your conclusion. 


      What I got from it: He already owns a gun and has gone shooting a lot. Someone gave him a shotgun that he HAS shot before but the difference between a pistol and a shotgun is major. The pistol can mess up a target but the shotgun will obliterate it. The sound of them loading is loud and intimidating as is, never mind when you actually shoot....it would suck for the person breaking in if that was the gun they got shot with.

      Also on your "when the chips are down" comment to Luckymina, there are cases where trained people (police, fed security, soldiers) have screwed up in the way that you describe b/c at the end of the day, training and shooting a target is a lot different than shooting a living, breathing human that you could potentially kill. So to me, that's not even worth/fair bringing up.

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @onebudd I mentioned several times that I am talking about the Michael I know from RT. Other than seeing him in a Best Buy one time, I have never met Michael. I only know him from RT productions. He has said things that are ignorant, and I think he should talk to a professional.


      Again, talking about the Michael I know from RT productions; I fully agree that Michael is not stupid. We are all ignorant about something, and if you have never used a gun before, you probably are ignorant about them. But, as you said, that is correctable. The question is, will he correct it. He doesn’t sound interested to me.


      Using a firearm that you do not know how to use properly, is irresponsible. Using a firearm in a defensive situation that you have only used occasionally, is irresponsible. If he does not have the experience to shoot it properly, then that increases the probability he will miss. If he is using bad defensive ammo, in a bad place, the round could easily exit his house.


      Also, I don’t know about you, but I do not refer to defensive ammo as, “people killers”. Besides the inevitable legal ramifications that Michael will face if he ever shoots someone, it just sounds stupid.


      Speaking of which, Michael, if you end up shooting someone, and you get sent to court, that podcast will likely be brought up. The prosecutor will immediately ask you why you are so bloodthirsty that you refer to your bullets as, “people killers”. Prosecutors have brought up ammo choices, and firearm modifications in trials before. 


      @wDsKillerBob Are we really going to argue the difference between “a bunch”, and “a few”? God help us if it has really come to that point. He doesn’t shoot all that much. Can you really deny that? To shoot well, you need practical training. He hasn’t done it much.


      “Also on your "when the chips are down" comment to Luckymina, there are cases where trained people (police, fed security, soldiers) have screwed up in the way that you describe b/c at the end of the day, training and shooting a target is a lot different than shooting a living, breathing human that you could potentially kill. So to me, that's not even worth/fair bringing up.”


      Yes, it is fair. Under pressure, if you have trained enough, training takes over. The more you train, the lower the probability is of failure. Failures can happen. Tomorrow, a person could demolish every probability, and break into my home. The pistol I have shot over 10,000 rounds though without a single failure (other than one cartridge failure), and kept meticulously clean, could fire the ammo that I have been using for years (over 500 rounds fired through this pistol), and blow up. All of that could happen. What is the probability? Training, and planning is about decreasing the probability of failure. I have not heard Michael say anything that would make me think he is planning, or training.


      Besides, hesitating because you are unsure whether your equipment (that was stored, and maintained by you) will function, is the sign of an amateur, or an idiot.

    • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

      3 weeks ago

      @farson135 well as he also said it was a gift and he had no intention of owning it. as well if some one is breaking into your home an attacking you your probably not going to have time to put on your ear covers and tell him to go against the left wall not the right so you can shoot them....., he may never want to use it, that being said its their private life so they can do as they please. and In Canada you can only use as much force to quell the attack or repel the crime, so you cant just shoot someone breaking in because that is not equal force only minimum force sufficient to defend yourself and/or to halt the act of criminal offense, anything over and above that would be excessive force.making you in the wrong and liable for criminal charges yourself Shooting is of course a no-no. Also any Half competent defense would say its a podcast  meant for entertainment purposes where over exaggeration is common and part of the stick, along with older podcast where he talks about the safety precautions he takes with his guns, and that they are only last of the line self defense also Since most of them have security cameras, there should not be any issue proving self defense if it happens. also again private life....

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @luckymina As I wrote, if he owned the firearm without any intention of using it, that would be one thing. His neighbors might have something to say about him shooting a gun without consideration for overpenetration.


      If you do not have time to put on hearing protection, then you need to figure out how to make time. That is where planning comes into play. If you must use a gun in the middle of the night, you need to call the police (if your security company is not doing it already), then you have to get the gun out of the safe (the amount of time depends on the safe), you need to grab a flashlight, and you need to put on your hearing protection. Add in, Michael needs to grab his glasses. If you do not have enough time to do all of that, and get your mind in order, after waking up at god knows what hour, then the gun is useless. You might get away without hearing protection if you are used to shooting without it (Michael doesn't seem to have enough experience), and if you use a small caliber firearm (and most shotguns are not). 


      Killing your innocent neighbor in order to protect yourself from an attacker is neither morally, nor legally, justified. Make it work, or don’t use the gun. It is as simple as that. That is part of the reason why deterring an attacker is your best course of action.


      You are acting like you can negotiate your way out of these things. If you shoot your attacker, and hit your neighbor at the same time, you are liable. Sound waves do not care about you being in a rush. These things are non-negotiable.


      It is legal to shoot someone in Canada in self defense. Equal force clauses are a different issue. 


      The Defense can say whatever it wants. That doesn’t mean the judge, and jury must believe it. Or do you think the American judicial system is not full of judges, and juries, making bad decisions off questionable evidence? Once again, decrease your failure points.


      What safety precautions? Like training? A gun safe does not remove the need for training.


      How do you know most of them have security cameras? I have only heard of few of them mentioning a handful of cameras. A doorbell camera, or a camera facing a crib is likely going to be useless. Especially if those cameras do not save their recordings.


      As a side note, mark this comment section. We have an American arguing that people should get more gun training, while the Canadian is dismissive of gun training.  


    • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

      3 weeks ago

      @luckymina lol you have never been robbed before have you? if you think you have time to set up safety equipment and get the robber to the right part of the house and let him know "hey don't shoot me cause im getting set up to shoot you" and the probability of shooting some one in your home and the bullet spray traveling through your walls and your neighbors walls and your neighborhood being in the right spot is small.  Also as i live in Canada (28 years now), i can tell you shooting  someone in self defense almost always gets ruled as excess force. Those laws apply to self defense, they are not different. I live these laws i know what i can get charged for.You are arguing almost nill impossibilities with no information from his personal life to back it up you are assuming he is going to use it, and assuming he is going to use it untrained assuming that he isn't joking assuming a lot of things,Assumptions create negative mindsets.  It doesn’t matter what you are assuming chances are it isn’t true. your just spouting, "your a bad person for getting a gun as a gift!"  you know nothing john snow, so

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @luckymina Ok, seriously, in no way, shape, or form is this acceptable grammar for an adult in her late 20s. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to read what you are writing? Even if you have some kind of disability, like me, you need to slow down, and figure out what you are doing. Even if I wasn’t dyslexic, this is bordering on nonsensical.


      Once again, sound waves do not care if you are in a hurry. These facts are nonnegotiable. If you do not have time, make it. If you cannot make it, then the gun is useless. If you train, the time you need shortens. This is not complicated.


      Bullets can easily travel through a person’s house. In all probability, Michael will never have a chance to use the gun to begin with. Him being in a position to use the gun already is highly improbable and you want to put an innocent person’s life in the hands of, what? A 1% chance? As opposed to, if he took the time, got training, used the proper firearm/ammo, set up a good plan, and reduced the probability down to 0.001%. How much is a human life worth to you?


      You went from- “its illegal to shoot someone even if they are breaking into your home”

      To- “shooting  someone in self defense almost always gets ruled as excess force”


      That is not the same thing. Shooting someone in self defense is legal. Shooting someone outside self defense (excessive force helps to define self defense) is illegal.


      Bullets traveling outside the home is an, “almost nil impossibility”? Bull.


      What training does Michael have? All we know is what he has said on the podcast. He has said things that are ignorant, and things that imply a very minimal level of training. He has said things that would get him in trouble legally, if he ever used a gun. What do you have?


      “your just spouting, "your a bad person for getting a gun as a gift!" “


      Would you mind quoting where I wrote that? All I wrote was, Michael has not shown that he has any mentionable training, or experience with firearms. He needs to get some.

    • AHDoug FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Bubb Rubb

      1 week ago

      Dude.  I own guns for selfdefense, and so does my family.  A shotgun is perfectly viable.  Granted, you'll have to repair some sheetrock and clean up other damage to the house and possibly the neighbors, but those are relatively minor problems.  I can guarantee that his neighbors won't be pissed because he damaged their patio a little bit while saving his family.  The odds of him hitting his neighbors are extremely small.  The idea of figuring out someone is breaking into your house, then grabbing the shotgun, then putting on ear protection, then trying to find the proper angle to shoot the robber before finally shooting him is ridiculous.  Someone who is in your house trying to hurt you won't stop and let you maneuver around the house.

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      @AHDoug My Kentucky Long Rifle is also perfectly viable for self defense. It doesn’t make it ideal. Shotguns have multiple problems, especially for people with limited training (some of which I mentioned). In the hands of a trained marksman, just about any firearm is superior to the best firearm on earth in the hands of a novice. Michael, in the Game of Thrones Let’s Plays, referred to himself as a bad marksman. Not a good start.


      I can’t guarantee that his neighbors will not be pissed. Nor can I guarantee that he will not be prosecuted for the dangerous discharge of a firearm. We Texans vote for our judges by party. I would not trust my freedom to any judge/jury after using a gun in self defense, nonetheless an Austin judge/jury. Especially not after referring to my bullets as, “people killers”. Not to mention, you are not taking into consideration the fact that he might hit someone. Once again, minimize the probability of failure.


      It is not ridiculous to take proper precautions to protect yourself. You have a gun for self defense because you believe that. How can you possibly argue that you should not take the time to protect yourself from what comes after you shoot?


      You don’t find the proper angle while someone is attacking you. You find the proper angle beforehand. Michael is not a CHL. He is using the gun for home defense. The firearm is stored in location A. His hearing protection, and flashlight, are in B. His glasses, and phone, when asleep, are stored in C. Key areas to defend are locations D, and E. What is the minimum amount of space you must cover to protect D, and E, while having an appropriate angle of fire? In addition, ensure that your most important valuables are stored behind that location, and be prepared to sacrifice the rest. Record the serial numbers, but let it go. Never advance into an unsecure area unless you absolutely must. Leave that to the police.


      If the attack comes when he is out of position, then he does not have the training to deal with the attack anyway. He wants to load his firearm under pressure. That means that you trust him to run to his safe, unlock the safe, grab the shotgun, take the safety off, load it, acquire the proper target, ensure he is not firing in the direction that his family is in, and fire a well aimed shot. All under the pressure of someone trying to kill him. I have a hell of a lot more training than Michael does, and I do not trust myself to do that 100% correctly. 


      I train to minimize the probability of failure. I use equipment that I am sure will do what I need it to do. I have a plan that is easy to implement, but flexible enough to cover major probabilities. And I still do everything in my power to dissuade a criminal from coming to my home. As far as I can tell, Michael has little training, poorly tested equipment, no plan worth mentioning, and has not done much to deter criminals.


      Side note, the 4 rules of safe gun handling do not go out the window because you are in a hurry. Find me a qualified trainer who would say otherwise.  

  • shmanel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    I know I definitely have vomited enough to make a toilet flush itself.


    Fuck you, Southern Comfort!

  • EliJayFly FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Is Archimedes not something discussed in American education? There is a fundamental understanding that no one on this podcast apparently has.

    • wDsKillerBob FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Honestly? Very briefly touched upon in JrH/HS but nothing significant. Or at least that's how it was in my school

    • HalcyonHusky FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I mean, he's mentioned halfway like once in world history classes and then they move on, that's about it.

  • EliJayFly FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    The answer is no, Jack does not know how a toilet works.

  • MichaelHuds3 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    the american toilet talk is confusing being an aussie.

  • THobbes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    when the toilet has finished flushing the water is level with the bend in the trap. That means that as you are pissing the water in the bowl is pouring over the trap. you cant get a full flush from just peeing because it is continually slowly flushing as you are trying to slowly filling the bowl.


  • nicholi417 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    The main problem with jacks thought about toilets is that a pee stream does not have a high enough flow rate to push all the liquid over the edge.  When a toilet does it, it dumps like 10 times the amount of liquid all at once.

    • GrimmSabretooth

      3 weeks ago

      As someone who can piss a toilet into flushing, I call horseshit. And if you ask for my proof look up diabetes incipidus, and then think of someone literally pissing out three or four 2 liters over a period of about 1min. I have to take medication so I don't literally turn myself into a raisin.

  • ContemporaryDevil FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Did anybody else notice how Jeremy didn't finish the moonshine

  • DCKan2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    It is not just volume it is volume over time. You can dump a buck of water in a toilet and if you do it slow enough the toilet won't "flush"

  • dmahady FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Big Boss

    3 weeks ago

    'You got a baby, you need to get more weapons in the house'.


    ...Fuck sake......

    • tonytwo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      honestly, i dont know why people get concerned about that. If you know how to keep them locked up, nothing is going to happen

    • dmahady FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Big Boss

      3 weeks ago

      I guess, being from Ireland, a statement like that is damn surprising.

    • Yukito_097 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold That Kool Guy

      3 weeks ago

      Weapons themselves aren't bad, it's all on the person using them. And frankly, I trust at least 4 of the people on this Off Topic to be responsible enough not play around with them or leave them lying around, despite how they are in their videos :P

    • luckymina FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold luckymina

      3 weeks ago

      listening to Michel and his need of making sure his home is safe, missuses of guns and mismanagement just does not seem like something he would do. He also isnt stupid lol 


    • OathkeeperKH FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Awkward

      3 weeks ago

      Jack is definitely being sarcastic when he said that.  He hates guns, based on the context before Michael brings the topic up, as well as things Jack has said in other videos.  Sorry if I've misunderstood your comment at all  sweat_smile

  • nooksi28 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold nooksi28

    4 weeks ago

    RIP linkin park.. jeremy will be missed